Is it just me or are many independent search engines down? Duckduckgo, my go to engine, qwant, ecosia, startpage… All down? The only hint I got was on the qwant page…
Edit: it all seems to be related to bing being down. I hope the independent engines will find a way to get really independent…
They have meta engines that search instances of searx
Kagi works fine.
Well isn’t that great, mr. moneybags
/S
Yes I’m making a stupid joke bc it’s a paid search engine, something i never would have imagined would be a thing. Now I’m going to price it and perhaps finally pull the trigger on an acct there because fuck google, fuck bing, and fuck all these sites being “wrappers” of them. I come from the dial-up days when lycos, webcrawler, altavista, yahoo–hard searches that would separate the men from the boys. Now we just get this “A.I.” bullshit instead and it falls apart under its own weight. Excuse me while i wave my cane at the sun ☀️
I was there too. Do try the freebies and see how you like it, there’s nothing to lose. Personally, that convinced me and I switched to 300 searches, then I got a new job for which I was making lots of searches and outgrew it so now I’m on the unlimited. IMO ultimate is useless unless you really like the vision or something, I just pay for a working product.
I hope Apple will finally allow custom search engines because the current workaround when wanting to use Kagi as default in iOS Safari is a shitty user experience (and I’m not blaming Kagi for that)
Lol wow. It is 2024 and apple still doesn’t give you basic browser v1.0 functionality
I have never used iOS but I’d guess that makes browsing on it a little less convenient than on a terminal with
curl
.You’re implying that the first browser was curl? I don’t think people called that a browser. And even if they did, they obviously weren’t using it like we do now.
Obviously not the first but might win a “most basic browser currently maintained” competition if it qualifies (not if HTML rendering is a criterion).
I mean, it’s an http client, I’ll give you that, but I don’t see how it could be considered a “browser” since all it handles is the server interaction
Yandex is working
That’s what that is. Shit.
Well, brave search works. Any others?
I use an instance from http://searx.space almost exclusively.
Kagi works too
I’m liking Kagi at first blush, thanks for the tip
one of the nicest (and controversial) tools is the option to have AI summarize a webpage. I hate it and love it at the same time
I find it quite ethical. Its fastGPT protocol gives hyperlinks too all of it sources used. Its like AI without thw stealing.
We love to hate AI because it is overvalued, at the same time I’m currently 90% done with my work week thanks to some cheeky AI use. Guilty pleasures.
lol how could they all go down at the same time
I have no idea, but I can’t LOL…
The Bing frontends are down.
Seems to be related to bing using AI now…
“We’re totally not just rewrapping Bing results!!!”
Yet, DuckDuckGo and Startpage seem down, too. Even though DDG supposedly uses its own results, and SP supposedly is a FE for Google
Has ddg ever really claimed to use its own index? I’ve always thought of it being a bing frontend
edit: Apparently start page pulls from Google and Bing (going off of this)
I recall that DuckDuckGo bought data from Yahoo and then used that on its own, but if that was ever true it no longer is:
Of course, we have more traditional links and images in our search results too, which we largely source from Bing.
https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources
DDG was working earlier today, but for the past hour it just throws an error “There was an error displaying the search results. Please try again.”
Google doesn’t
Kagi works fine 👍
Yeah DDG was struggling for me too.
Yandex is still up
Removed by mod
They all use Bing’s, idk how i feel about that fact actually. Curious what you others use. Just as a thought experiment.
Been an avid ddg user but hate how it sometimes does push this micropoop nonsenses. Like msn news
I’ve been using Kagi, and although it has a pricetag, and not quite as good as Google, I am happy with it and has worked well for me.
I find it significantly better than Google. 90% of the time.
Well it ses that bing is down too, and most independent search engines are a warper arround bing so…
*wrapper
*rapper
You gotta believe!
“independent”
Same. Duck duck go is down for me.