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I agree with the general sentiment but it literally says it will update outside of active hours. So as non-disruptive as possible.
And the privacy toggles are set when you install the OS. You can untick all of them the last time I checked.
Sorry for being such a pedant
but it literally says it will update outside of active hours.
Yeah, but it lies.
And the privacy toggles are set when you install the OS. You can untick all of them the last time I checked.
But a future Windows update will reset them without informing the user.
Do they do that? I’ve had my laptop for a while, and it’s never happened to me.
My windows install enjoys rebooting itself unexpectedly a lot. There is no chance I ever checked a box that said “update then reboot my computer at some time in the future”
Has what you said been proven and documented anywhere? All I can find is threads of people claiming things, but no actual (investigative) journalism that covers these parts.
Toggling on data collection without informing the user would mean billions of dollars worth of fines in Europe, so I doubt that happens regularly. Still, I don’t mind being proven wrong if you got the proof to back it up
Toggling on data collection without informing the user would mean billions of dollars worth of fines in Europe, so I doubt that happens regularly.
More like a few thousand euros symbolic fine and an angry letter saying “don’t be an ass again pls our infrastructure depends on you” after years of blatant abuses and anti-consumer practices, followed by an ambiguous law (with positive effects affecting only european users) they will definitely not manage to circumvent withing the next week and a half. Not this time 🤡.
The problem here is the fact that most people just do not give a fuck about this; that’s why there’s no coverage in the (mainstream) media, why the only people who cares end up just leaving windows and why this kind of options are usually opt-out and they can actually afford to silently re-enable them cuz who’s gonna check anyways? Random people ranting on meme communities about my fancy malware?
You seem to forget what kind of fines the EU hands out. specifically against Microsoft in 2004 the EU fined then 500 million. And then another few 100 million.
Yeah, but it lies.
No it doesn’t, at least not if the update isn’t already a month overdue
But a future Windows update will reset them without informing the user.
I’ve done 3 years worth of updates in one day cause I needed too. Pretty much everything was reset including registry edits, but the privacy toggles were one of the few things that stayed persistent. Maybe it’s a EU special feature (wouldn’t be the first), but at least here they won’t change back silently.
I find it hilarious that Linux users STILL continue to hate on Windows Update when memes like this exist.
In my experience, Linux wants to update itself far more frequently than Windows (which is really generally no more than once a month these days), and it DOESN’T EVEN OFFER THE OPTION of automatically postponing it to a more convenient time. Yes, you can always say “not now”, but then it’ll just keep bugging you again until you say yes.
Ironically, at this point, updates on Linux are basically everything that Windows used to get made fun of in the past (for good reason!), but while the situation has actually improved on Windows, on Linux it’s only become worse as distributions grow and updates become even more frequent.
I think Linux seems to have more updates because the package update manager is taking care of every installed program as well as the OS.
That’s certainly true, and there may even be advantages to this because security issues might get fixed more quickly, but it doesn’t change the fact that the annoyance factor is at least as high as that of Windows used to be, and there is no convenient option to have it taken care of automatically, say, at shutdown.
Instead of making fun of Windows, it would serve Linux far better to actually address this issue, even if that means copying what Microsoft did here.
I don’t know how much this varies by distro, but I find the updates completely non intrusive. I think in Fedora I’ve seen one or two “critical updates are available” or “version N+1 is available” popups, but they aren’t intrusive and don’t get in the way. I’m not sure if I’ve seen a popup in Mint or not. Most of the time I notice there’s an update available because there’s a notification in the system tray or equivalent.
And I’m not even here to bash how Windows does it. I haven’t had many issues with my windows machines because I’ll check for updates and/or install available ones right away. Either that or I don’t use the machine for a while (working as a server) and it may or may not restart itself at night sometimes.
I still prefer the Linux way, which is kind of a win-win in my eyes because you get control over updates and reboots AND your system isn’t as much of a target in the first place so updates aren’t usually time critical.
Yes.
Maybe I’m missing something, but what is the damage in this screenshot?
High background resource usage.
Ah, the light blue between the 2 lines is background usage? I wouldn’t know, I use Arch btw :3
Thanks for asking. I’m using Debian and didn’t know either. :p
I too have used arch btw. Currently using pop (deb) tho. I hop around from time to time.
how do you manage your system setup?
btw, moving from arch to pop is strange, you’re supposed to go Gentoo or NixOS or LFS…
Nix was my next plan lol. My last distro suddenly had some file system corruption problems mid week when I needed it, so I had to switch to something quick without much time for configuration. So I decided to go for a preconfigured distro.
My next plan is Nix when I have some time.
As for how I back stuff up for frequent distro hopping: Firefox login syncs my browser stuff and passwords, steam syncs my game save files, I backup my home folder to a USB once in a while so I don’t lose any local documents. I have private GitHub repos for some window manager, bar, etc configs I’ve made like sway, i3, polybar, awesomewm, etc., that I use when switching to more barebones distros.
Distro slut! /s
Stop distro shaming.
when you’re the OS, they let you do it. you can do anything.
Grab 'em by the kernel.
When you know for sure a statement (or reality) makes it impossible for something to gain mass-market adoption
Thennnnn comes the general public
NSFW transcript of (the only) twice-impeached US president
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/donald-trump-tape-transcript.html
This was pretty informative and shocking.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
This stuff affects the user experience too. I’ve been able to daily drive Linux at work for a few weeks now. Restarting and booting into windows, after being used to Linux on the same hardware, makes windows feel like the slow, cobbled together OS that you can get for free.
I mean, we’re a Microsoft 365 company like many others, but even things like Teams and Outlook feel more responsive in Firefox in Linux than in the native apps on windows. Even video conferencing works great.
This difference isn’t exactly new to me, and I’ve used Unix or Linux sporadically over the past couple decades. However, using it as my main work OS has really highlighted the differences. Hell, even the multi-monitor support is better!
And this is with Mint Cinnamon installed, not some cutting edge or lean & fast distro.
It is getting into the final form, after decades of progressive enmalwaretyfication
always been. In fact all proprietary program is a kind of malware.
Yes, without a doubt Microsoft Windows is malware. And soon will introduce to us, adware. Yaaaay.
Fk Microsoft and it’s decision makers.
Is it malware when the user allows it?
While there are ways to disable some aspects, most people don’t even know how to disable what they theoretically could.
ITT: Libertarians advocating for corpos with rapist mentality calling it “consent”.
Sir, this is a Linux memes community
Windows updates aren’t disruptive if you actually update now and then. It’s not even that often.
or…
Upgrade to Enterprise (upgrading to enterprise will also remove ads in settings)
in gpo editor:
- Set updates to Manual
- set the telemetry level to “Security” in group policy (iirc can also be called “Compliance”). This only works on Enterprise.
- opt out of Microsoft accounts. This will force account creation to skip right to local accounts as if MS accounts were never a thing. This only works on Enterprise/Pro.
- disable copilot and integrated bing search
do a full reboot
For people who say you should read the contract before agreeing to it. What about the hundreds of thousands? No, millions of people buying new windows laptops every year. Are they presented with any kind of agreement? I don’t think so.
The same is happening with some of these new “smart” vehicles. Built-in software in these vehicles are the anti-thesis of freedom and privacy.
It’s like using edge to download a better browser but with extra steps.
Oh they are when they first set up Windows
They are. It is a huge problem that companies are allowed to do clickwrap bullshit with no human-comprehensible summary. But people are agreeing to this stuff.
“Windows malware” increasingly sounds like pleonasm
“Windows malware” increasingly sounds like Linux users wanking each other
you don’t have to browse linuxmemes
And Linux users don’t have to share their hate for Windows in all communities yet they do 🤷
Your comment increasingly sounds like a bootlick
Your comment sounds like penguin preparing for Sunday dinner
It’s just that you guys have nothing to talk about but how you hate Windows, maybe you should find a hobby or something.
Next time Gates slips his microcock up your ass, remember that there’s no such requirement for using linux
Lol alternative OSes are a hobby but most of us have several others too, obviously
Why the damage?
From my experience Windows have this system program called “CompatTelRunner.exe” that run silently in the background maybe once a month it’s send data to M$ and using a lot of CPU power while collecting data, now with Al being pushed to windows who knows what it could be doing in the background without user knowledge
