Do you know that he didn’t take a gun safety course? For all we know, he could have had plenty of knowledge on how to safely handle a firearm and simply decided to ignore it for the sake of looking cool. The fact is that no amount of safety training can stop someone who decides to do something stupid.
I absolutely agree with your last point though. There should be extensive training in how to handle a firearm safely required before someone can buy a gun.
Thank you for your comment. I won’t do any speculation either way regarding this specific situation.
What is important is the messaging to parents and society at large of the importance of the safety measures that we both seem to agree on :) Blaming and laughing at the kid straight away in this situation detracts from that crucial message that gun safes and basic education for kids save lives.
I mean I was with you so far, a 17 year old can drive a car, so we agree that they’re capable of taking on significant risks to themselves and others, they’re not babies that need to be Molly-coddled. But if he had to take a course and pass a test before getting a gun this very well could have been avoided. Most countries have a gun safety course requirement and therefore much lower rates of this shit happening.
Unironically yes. Kids are dumb as shit but if we as a society insist on guns being around, the least we can do is reduce the harm by giving them the education they need to be around guns safely.
the least we can do is reduce the harm by giving them the education they need to be around guns safely.
I agree with that statement, but that dumbass would still have a hole in his head. Quality drivers education lowers collision rates, but reckless kids still kill in cars everyday.
I’m not here to debate what would have happened, I am just disappointed that the immediate reaction to a youth’s tragic death is guffawing.
I hate cars too and I think they shouldn’t be around either. But as long as they are I am going to insist that kids get drivers ed training and that that training is constantly improved upon. I am being quite consistent here.
lol, we’re commenting on each other’s speculations- impressive observation.
But yeah- super disappointing people’s empathy doesn’t always extend to those that recklessly put others in danger and kill themselves. Super sad…
But the good news is that we actually agree on the value of gun safety training. Turns out we can agree on the substance of gun policy while disagreeing that people that shoot themselves in the head are idiots!
Wrong, potentially because you are malinformed, but quite wrong.
This is absolutely a ‘gun safety’ issue, because any gun safety course will have treat every gun as if it’s loaded as one of the first principles.
The average 17 year old driving has had dozens of hours of training before being licensed. The same should apply to 17 year olds with guns at minimum.
Do you know that he didn’t take a gun safety course? For all we know, he could have had plenty of knowledge on how to safely handle a firearm and simply decided to ignore it for the sake of looking cool. The fact is that no amount of safety training can stop someone who decides to do something stupid.
I absolutely agree with your last point though. There should be extensive training in how to handle a firearm safely required before someone can buy a gun.
Thank you for your comment. I won’t do any speculation either way regarding this specific situation.
What is important is the messaging to parents and society at large of the importance of the safety measures that we both seem to agree on :) Blaming and laughing at the kid straight away in this situation detracts from that crucial message that gun safes and basic education for kids save lives.
Yeah man, if only he’d taken that course- he’d definitely have been a responsible gun owner ;)
I mean I was with you so far, a 17 year old can drive a car, so we agree that they’re capable of taking on significant risks to themselves and others, they’re not babies that need to be Molly-coddled. But if he had to take a course and pass a test before getting a gun this very well could have been avoided. Most countries have a gun safety course requirement and therefore much lower rates of this shit happening.
Unironically yes. Kids are dumb as shit but if we as a society insist on guns being around, the least we can do is reduce the harm by giving them the education they need to be around guns safely.
You snarked your way into being correct.
I agree with that statement, but that dumbass would still have a hole in his head. Quality drivers education lowers collision rates, but reckless kids still kill in cars everyday.
Objection, speculation.
I’m not here to debate what would have happened, I am just disappointed that the immediate reaction to a youth’s tragic death is guffawing.
I hate cars too and I think they shouldn’t be around either. But as long as they are I am going to insist that kids get drivers ed training and that that training is constantly improved upon. I am being quite consistent here.
lol, we’re commenting on each other’s speculations- impressive observation.
But yeah- super disappointing people’s empathy doesn’t always extend to those that recklessly put others in danger and kill themselves. Super sad…
But the good news is that we actually agree on the value of gun safety training. Turns out we can agree on the substance of gun policy while disagreeing that people that shoot themselves in the head are idiots!
🤝 i guess lol
i also agree that all kids are idiots. never stated otherwise. :) take care
Fortunately it’s a wide spectrum and most 17 year olds aren’t nearly as idiotic as this Darwin award contender.