• AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world
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    We keep saying it.

    Societies used to do it though.

    Even the fucking French have lost the self-respect to break out the guillotines for their emboldened wealth class fucking them over without lube, as they should. The French! Americans started killing their lord’s sycophant troops a quarter millenia ago over taxation. What’s our excuse? Our Facebook and TikTok feeds are worth this class rule and occupation?

    Apparently the wealth class found out how to remove the peasantry’s spines without anyone noticing. Pathetic.

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      The French had cohesion at the time of the revolution, now it’s divided. Each side has a puppet boogeyman, for the right it’s CNN, for the left it’s Fox News. Kill the boogeymen, then it’ll start crumbling down. With the puppets, you stop paying attention to what the other hand is doing and focus on the news agencies. Without the puppets, we eventually realize to get mad enough.

      • jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org
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        The people are loyal to a fault to politicians (which they defend and treat like celebrities), they keep voting for the bloods and crips expecting change.

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          Exactly, the best we can do is avoid idolization of someone whose entire job is to cover our best interests. Yet continually seem to cover their own.

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      people are rarely able to harm the person that harmed them, because the power imbalance is what facilitated the harm to begin with. The axe forgets, the tree remembers. Getting through the multiple layers that insulate the upper class from consequences is an uphill battle and it’s fought on many fronts. most of these fronts you’ll never see because the upper class prefers it that way. It’s a long war with many individual engagements. but this is always the goal.

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        Basically this. During the French Revolution or the Coal Wars, it was as simple as “the King/boss lives there, we should go there and threaten to kill him unless he capitulates”. Now it’s not as simple as storming Versailles or taking the boss hostage when he comes into work in the morning - you think a CEO is ever in their actual, physical office without an appointment to require their presence?

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          A little over a decade ago I worked for a company that designed and fabricated stonework for buildings. Not just anyone can clad their house in marble, so I wound up interacting with some very wealthy people. I can’t say who, because they’re still just as wealthy and powerful and I’m about to shit all over them. I came away from the experience with much less respect for them afterwards. They essentially have no interaction with ordinary people at all. They don’t do anything for themselves, and they don’t engage with the real world. It’s no wonder they lack empathy and only act in their own self-interest. The real world is an abstract concept to them, I doubt they think about any of us as being real people.

          I was raised dirt poor, like food insecure and periodically unhoused poor. The guy I interacted with was literally a billionaire and had always been a billionaire. His staff treats him like a noble lord, and they buffer him from nearly any circumstance that would lead to him experiencing reality. One perk of being a white guy with good diction and vocabulary is that you can hide your low-class upbringing. Put me in some decent clothes and they’ll assume I’m from a similar background and speak more openly. The conversations were disturbing. The things they said about poor people, my people, were horrible. They think about us like animals if they think about us at all. I had to sit there and smile the whole time.

          Even before he became a political figure, he could have had the entire LAPD at his house within moments of the first sign of trouble. It’s not like the french revolution. They have a modern army that is well trained to deal with large groups. They’ve had lots of practice. We can’t just roll up on him with a guillotine in the back of our truck and expect to actually prevail.

          My experience at that job radicalized me somewhat and drove from me any lingering desire I might once have had to obtain wealth. I do not want to live in that world. I want to unmake that world.

    • Magusbear@lemmy.ml
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      I know right? But nowadays people have washing machines, some even got dish washers, they’re able to visit a foreign country every year and suddenly our lives are not too bad. I mean they could be better, but you don’t want to be the type who complains about everything, do you? Nah, some people have it way worse than you, you’ve seen it on the internet and in documentations on the TV. You’re one of the privileged, from a privileged country, you’re not allowed to complain. We Europeans even have “free” healthcare and “unlimited” sick leave! Better keep quiet, else the rich will leave the country and we lose everything!

      I’m so tired of this fucking shit.

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      Without some idea of what we’re going to build afterwards, we’re going to end up beheading more and more, even innocent people, just like the Reign of Terror. And then we’ll (by default) create another state with the same problems because it’s all most people will imagine.

      Fists are for smashing things, spines are for supporting things. What would you want after the guillotine? This isn’t a gotcha, I’m seriously asking which new social order would be more resilient. Do you think Marxism-Leninism worked out well?

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        AI controlled dictatorship. Just hook up chatgpt to the nukes and give it some basic human rules. See how quickly people can come together.