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The left really need to listen to what people want rather than saying everything I do is right and you’re all Nazis if you disagree.
They are a complete jerk to trans people and immigrants I don’t know what else to call them
Also, they have parties in Europe like AfD in Germany that are as close to modern Nazis as you can possibly get.
Europeans: *go further right again after decades of conservative and social democrat governments chopping on welfare programs and privatisations in the name of austerity measures, economical crises, and following USA agenda right into geopolitical irrelevance, while attempting to show themselves as the moral lighthouse*
Lemmitors: “It’s the left’s fault”.
The right isn’t nazis for disagreeing. They’re nazis when they do the racist shit. Nobody calls them nazis for wanting lower taxes.
Problem is when the right wants to say they don’t harbor nazis, when they absolutely do.
Did you read the article?
A right wing party—even if “far” right is a misnomer at this point—that is demonizing marginalized groups while passionately chanting about “homeland”…umm…is scary as fuck. Italy has elected the furthest right govt since MUSSOLINI.
A near continental shift toward finding a single scapegoat is terrifying. Just when Spain, Germany and Italy moved this direction last time, we had ww2. Now it’s Netherlands, UK, Italy, Germany, France, Spain’s far right is surging, I believe I read Portugal’s as well, then you add Poland, Hungary…this is a BAD sign.
I agree that everyone (not just the left) has, since ww2, gone to the hitler well way too often. It blunts the impact. But that fact only leads to the situation where now that we may seriously be in trouble, you (and others) say, “okay guys, how many times have we said this next person is a fascist?”
But these are telltale signs of fascism. Demonizing marginalized groups and erring on the side of “purity in the motherland” is fuckin scary. You’re not wrong about the overall problem, but you’re misreading the situation.
Its interesting how after the far left has a period leading the global narrative how u get a far right responds popping up. Almost like both sides are wrong but too stuck up their own asses to realise it.
This comment was brought to you by “everything to the left of hunting the homeless for sport is far-left”.
Sounds like fun NGL probably would solve a lot of problems add a multiplier bonus based on the number of substances in the bloodstream. Ohh and probably should make it so every elected official for the area has to spend the same percentage of time homeless as the area they govern has homeless. Death is one hell of a motivator.
Please write about that leading far left in as much detail as you can. I’m grabbing some popcorn.
The far left has had basically no influence leading global narrative since at least before the Cold War. It’s been almost entirely the center right leading it.
Which country was governed by the far left? Maybe some socialists had a bit of power in Europe but that’s about as left as it goes
Did I say power or narrative?
Without Paywall: https://archive.ph/0Ci0r
It’s like we learned nothing from the 20th century: every time the rich get too greedy, they’ll gleefully fertilize the fields of fascism before they’ll accept making less money.
The rich wrote the history books and have a strong influence in education, so… yeah.
Don’t forget about the Red Scare either. We’re still feeling the effects today (mostly in the US, which matters everywhere else as well due to the economic influence of the US in the world)
This is where we got “in god we trust” from. Fucking christofascists.
“When fascists come to America, it will be wrapped in an American flag and be holding a cross up high.”
- I forgot who said this (69420 A.D.)
When do we eat the rich? Asking for a friend…
The best time to plant a tree was 30 years ago, the second best time is now.
Roughly 8 hours at 250F
Eeee, what’s cooking doc?
I feel like the US “center-right” is more dangerous than the European “far-right”.
Democrats are worse than literal fascists. What a great take
From a European perspective, the US centre-right are more conservative than the European fringe right. The European far right doesn’t (typically) want to restrict abortion, sabotage education or reinstate child labor for example. And are mostly about increasing and militarizing police, disenfranchising minorities, and different schemes to control that only the right people get to vote.
I’d argue that the US centre right is actually as radical, or even more so than the European fringe right, they are certainly causing about the same commotion, but of course have much more power in the US.
The US center right is Dems. They’re not good at all but definitely milder than their and Europe’s far right.
I would argue that the centre-right party is the democrats. They are more in line with a European centre-right party. We have no true leftist party due to the 2 party system.
Italian here: our “centre right” is actively on restricting abortion, dismantling public healthcare and education, deportation of immigrants, isolation of disabled students, eliminating LGBT rights and militarizing public spaces (with already students/protesters beaten by the police in several occasions) and of course jailing journalists and controlling the public media.
The only thing that sets them apart from their US equivalent is child labor, but they already have prevented the approval of minimum wages and other social safety net measures.
I’d agree that there are some variation in the European far right. In contrast to Italy, Spain and Russia: German, French, UK, Nordic far right are not restricting abortion, but are doing most of the rest (northern European ones not as much dismantling welfare/healthcare as making it inaccessible to some, especially immigrants, trans, lgbt, etc).
The article is behind a paywall so I can’t read it, but the answer to the question is that they are about as dangerous as all other parties. Yes, we should watch out for “far-right” parties eroding democracy and civil liberties. We should also watch out for center-right, center-left and far-left and literally all other parties doing the same. Authoritarian tendencies are bad no matter what ideology is the current excuse.
I don’t entirely agree with you because what you are saying is basically stop here. Here sucks. Hard. The window shifted. We need to shift left a bit imo. That includes taxing rich more and spending it in house not abroad. Military doesn’t count. They don’t need the extra money. And yes, authoritarian tendencies are bad. They are just made worst by a strong loyal military. How long before they remove the clause about not following orders that are illegal?
So we should not pay more attention to parties with a ton of authoritarian tendencies compared to a party that has one or two viewpoints that may be construed as authoritarian?
I will posit my question in the nicest way I can think off. Are you fucking retarded?!?
Is that you, Neville Chamberlain?
How many “far-right” parties are about waging wars of aggression and conquest nowadays?
You mean other than the ones sucking up to Putin while he wages a war of aggression and conquest in Ukraine while threatening other European countries?
Yeah you’re right, as long as they only victimise and kill their own people it’s JUST FINE.
God, the shit people write sometimes…
Maybe not conquest but 100% of far right parties are advocating violence, usually including military aggression, towards “the others”, whether it’s Palestinians, Iran, Muslims in general, Jews and Christians in the case of Muslim far right parties, LGBTQ+ people, or more than one of the above.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Precisely because the Parliament is relatively weak, the election is closely watched as a measure of uninhibited popular sentiment, where voters register their discontent with potentially powerful downstream effects on national politics.
For France, it means that a party that is nationalist, xenophobic and Islamophobic may well emerge reinforced — accepted, legitimized and eminently electable to high office in a way that would have been unthinkable even a decade ago.
The language of these parties may be less incandescent than former President Donald J. Trump’s invocations of “bloodshed,” but as they whip up support by scapegoating immigrants, and even move to lock in systems that could perpetuate their power, the threat to the postwar order seems real enough.
Warnings of the disasters that engulfed 20th-century Europe under fascist governments tend not to resonate with 21st-century supporters of xenophobic nationalist movements that have none of the militarism of fascism, nor the personality cults of its dictatorial leaders, but are fed by hatred of “the other” and jingoistic hymns to national glory.
The working class, long the cornerstone of socialism in Europe, migrated en masse to the anti-immigrant right as an expression of frustration at growing inequality and stagnant paychecks.
For them, as for Mr. Putin, it has been easy to present a simplistic portrayal of the West of liberal urban elites as the decadent locus of cultural suicide, the place where family, church, nation and traditional notions of marriage and gender go to die.
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