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Say what you want about him, but this guy is at least willing to stand up to the tyranny of these companies.
Here is the invidious link:
https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=dqTYg6vnQvw
Invidious is a privacy friendly frontend for Youtube.
Grayjay.app for those interested in the app he runs that YouTube is threatening him over
I know the FOSS fans within our community don’t like the terms of Grayjay. That said we have options like NewPipe, ytdlp, nvidious, Libretube, etc. which are FOSS and AFAIK each have different extraction mechanisms, so one change on the page end can’t reliably shut down every method. I get that Louis is against Sponsorblock and his personal feelings and morals influence the direction of the software too.
The Grayjay app is a bit more like Shareware, Louis himself described his app’s monetization scheme like an infinite free trial. He knows many people are going to use it for free. He knows that others will pay the one time payment for a license, and it doesn’t necessarily have to be linked to the install or anything.
The thing is that diversity in the space makes us stronger in the face of the gigantic monolith that Google is. His repair foundation or whatever that was means that he has a few more resources pooled together than the rest of us to put up a legal fight that in the end will hopefully effect change that helps all of us.
If only he didn’t decide to call it “open source”, when it has quite an egregious license.
Whether it’s source is open or not,
has nothing to do with its licensing.
It’s on a github repo: it’s open-source.
Having an ideological-problem with people making a living off their code is independent of whether their code was honestly, actually, published, & therefore is actual open-source.
having an ideological-problem with people making a living off their code
I’m just going to stop you right there. Free Software / Open Source Software are not opposed to people earning money. In fact, they encourage it and there are several avenues through which it is possible, such as not making the code public and selling binaries to people with the source bundled.
You don’t need to fuck over and mistreat users to earn money.
Fun fact: open source has a definition: https://opensource.org/osd
I don’t know much about Grayjay, but how you are describing it, it at best is “source open”
I get that Louis is against Sponsorblock and his personal feelings and morals influence the direction of the software too.
Louis may be against sponsorblock, but sponsorblock is supported in Grayjay, so at least he’s not letting his personal feelings get in the way too much of what his userbase wants.
I hope Louis does well in case they go up against Google. I just hope they get a good judge that has a decent understanding of how the tech works and how a decision one way or another will really affect everything.
Just use Newpipe. It supports similar functionality and is on F-droid under the GPL-3 or later license.
The other option is libretube.
It just comes across hypocritical. He demands everyone else be open, hardware vendors, video hosts, yet himself wants to be closed.
AFAIK, Grayjay is not a closed source app, the source is on github, but he chose a license that restricts monetization and redistribution due to having concerns of people taking FOSS apps and repackaging them on app stores with added monetization or malware.
Not ideal, but not closed either.
source available but not FOSS…
hmm even if this is made by Louis Rossmann not sure if I like thatI personally wouldn’t use it but I’m also not a Louis fanboy either
Not foss
This ain’t a foss sub
True, but see a lot of people compare grayjay to foss
Every time I see his videos I can’t stop thinking about how comfortable that fucking recliner looks. It’s comically large, and I bet it feels like sitting on a cloud.
It’s this one, listed under ‘Equipment used’ in the description!
What’s that with a 3000 usd used cock ring on his merch shop lol??? Used cock ring
I mean, to have a YouTube channel at all, you gotta be some kind of exhibitionist.
So I’d say it tracks.
With the cat next to him, he’s channeling Dr. Claw energy
All he needs is a cat on his lap.
4 laws passed in 3 states over the last 2 years with 1 million dollars.
Clever and impressive. Will YT brush this off and move on or double down and wade into it? Would you want to pick a fight with clever, eloquent nerds who seem to enjoy battling dragons, or EEE while quietly going about other business?
They’ll forget this and try again in 2 years.
Is there a seven paragraph summary or something I can read? It’s a written document. I can just read it myself, maybe?
This is basically about the Grayjay app. YouTube isn’t happy about it, and claims it’s a breach of their API terms of service. Rossmann claims they never agreed to their terms of service, and they don’t use their published API anyway.
Apparently this happened before, and he sent a response, which was never answered.
The rest is largely him repeating things over and over like he normally does.
Is this the guy who always is over the top with his emotions in his videos?
Ah, he’s emotional. People shouldn’t be outwardly emotional, especially men. Otherwise I can’t absorb the content of their message. /s
Joke aside, did you have a point? One could alternatively say that he’s passionate about the fights he chooses. Should we not all aspire to be passionate about the fights we choose?
I mostly got tired of the constant repetion. Felt like most of his rant videos could have been half the length and had the same content.
Fair critique, he is known for being verbose, I suppose his audience likes that though? Shows us the value of editors :)
💀 at making it a men’s rights issue.
From my perspective, it’s toxic to always get your audience worked up over minute things. That kind of content is what I tried to avoid hence my move to Lemmy
Did he makes the youtube thing a men’s rights issue? I don’t understand, I only had time to watch the first half of the video so far. I’ll check out the rest later.
Did he makes the youtube thing a men’s rights issue?
No, he didn’t.
I’m not familiar with his videos, and I haven’t watched this one, but I can say for sure that people who over-act for YouTube videos are a turn-off. Yes, I know it gets people to engage more, but it’s almost always at the cost of being informative.
He doesn’t overact it. He’s genuinely and rightfully salty when it comes to companies and governments screwing us and him over.
He’s not emotional in that he cries, screams, rages about things in a “reality TV” kinda way. He sits down and discusses things, and sometimes he veers into “this makes me feel XYZ” or “I got letters from XYZ’s legal dept last week, and they spoke to me in a way that made me feel XYZ”.
Honestly I don’t think he acts over the top at all, he’s just comfortable talking about his feelings, and some people don’t like that, particularly in men.
My (minor) problem with him is one completely different - his videos are so long, and he rambles. The guy could really benefit from writing a script lol. It could cut the runtime of his videos in half.
Granted I have only watched maybe 20 videos of his, but he’s covered topics that frustrate and anger him, and on the contrary he’s always been very calm and collected for someone speaking off the cuff about things that makes them upset.
Whoa. Calm down. That comment seemed a little emotional. We can’t have that here
That’s a loaded question.
As opposed to being bland and boring?
Threatens Part 2. It’s a part 2
I think Rossmann tends to be a drama king about things sometimes, but the general overarching message he is trying to get across, sometimes poorly, is something I usually agree with. This included.
The whole thing reads like just some lawyer on retainer was sent a memo telling them to send a threatening sounding letter and no further thought or research went into it on Googles or the lawyers part.
Yup. Here’s how I understand the flow of events:
- YouTube hears about Grayjay app
- YouTube sends threatening letter
- Rossmann responds, essentially saying: we never agreed to your TOS and we don’t use your API
- crickets
- Repeat step 1
I doubt this will go anywhere unless Grayjay gets popular, at which point we’ll see the lawyers gear up for a lawsuit.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://piped.video/watch?v=dqTYg6vnQvw
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
This man is a national treasure. His app (Grayjay) is desperately needed and could solve the biggest problems YouTube has created for content creators (and therefore viewers). We should all be using it to follow content creators instead of their YouTube channels.
I’m still using re-vanced, as last time I used Grayjay there were still some missing features as compared to revanced, a complete lack of a webapp, and lack of multiple video services I use. Between all of those things, I just didn’t find it worth sticking with it.
However, I did pay the 10 bucks and do come back to visit it occasionally.
I don’t know, I save videos all the time. Does revanced have a download video feature?
Yes, same as the normal YouTube app. It is nice that Grayjay allows 2160p downloads though.
I think it also supports third party download tools, if you don’t pay for premium.
So two things…1) Nebula is totes worth subscription…2) NEWPIPE for Smart phones and Smartube for TVs. You’re welcome.
Third: you can use Nebula on Grayjay, as well as ad-free YouTube, Odysee, and a bunch of other streaming platforms.
So use Grayjay if you want, or use Nebula, or use both together.
