Time magazine called the ex-president’s plans ‘an imperial presidency that would reshape America and its role in the world’

Donald Trump has warned that Joe Biden and his family could face multiple criminal prosecutions once he leaves office unless the US supreme court awards Trump immunity in his own legal battles with the criminal justice system.

In a sweeping interview with Time magazine, Trump painted a startling picture of his second term, from how he would wield the justice department to hinting he may let states monitor pregnant women to enforce abortion laws.

Trump made the threat against the Biden family in an interview with Eric Cortellessa of Time, in which he shared the outlines of what the magazine called “an imperial presidency that would reshape America and its role in the world”.

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    Prosecute the Bidens on what grounds? The GOP have been investigating them for a few years now and have admitted they can’t find anything, other than Hunter’s tax evasion or whatever it was.

    He’s full of shit and just says whatever the fuck no matter how stupid it is because he loves the uneducated and his followers are certainly that. They believe anything from anyone with an R in front of their name.

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      Just like Hilary it’s all hot air to rile up his base. Thry bad, I can prove. Except I can’t prove it cause there isn’t any evidence and my supposed witness has no credibility or ever been in the same room.

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        Hilary did do a crime kinda. Based on the advice of a Repub telling her to have a private instead of government mail server. Then she complied with investigations and ultimately the government declined to prosecute because it was such a nothing issue.

        In stark fucking contrast is Donald literally stealing classified documents, storing them in a run-down hotel next to a copy machine that anyone can access, refusing to comply with instructions to return them, lying about everything…

        Sorry, not disagreeing at all. It is hot air to rile up the base. And it does rile up the base because they are doublethink clowns.

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      I don’t think he understands or really believes that there are impartial laws. He thinks when he’s being prosecuted it’s just personal bullshit targeted at him, so he can do the same to anyone.

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        Because he’s always weaponized the courts to slap people opposed to him and doesn’t understand 90% of his business empire is based on illicit activities. The first dollar he ever made wasn’t even obtained legally because his father put one month old donny down as a landlord so he’d get income at a lower tax rate. 70+ years later he’s still shitting in diapers and having people smarter than him find loopholes and schemes to hide how he puts more money in his pocket.

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    Motherfuckers already have immunity for war crimes before international courts and law.

    Why the fuck should an expresident get immunity from our laws as well?

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      Moreover, tRump claims if he didn’t have total immunity from all crimes, it would prevent a president from doing their job for fear of prosection under the next guy. It’s like, my dude there’s been over 200-years of Presidents who didn’t need that immunity and weren’t indicated after term.

      For being the “most patriotic,” their supporters don’t know dick about this country’s Constitution after the 2nd, and only if they can cherry-pick the parts they like, just like the Bible.

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    Everyone knows these guys are just going to lie their way into the presidency right? As in just get fox news to declare early, then stand over election officials to call it their way.

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      It really is a concerning situation that is going to turn November+ into a nightmare. Hopefully, we see an article about tRump being found dead as a headline if the SCOTUS slobs up the asinine defense of total immunity. That’s the only way I think this can resolve without a constitutional disaster. He’s basically daring someone to do something and I, for one, hope the “find out” part comes for him.

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        Surely the best way to resolve without a constitutional disaster is simply for him to convincingly lose the election come November ?

        If he died now he would be a martyr obviously.

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          If he died now he would be a martyr obviously.

          Hundreds of historians have said that Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump is the worst president in history. There is no scenario where that changes.

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            That’s not how martyrdom works.

            It doesn’t matter how bad he is. If he dies then his spectre will remain eternal.

            He needs to lose the election. A public acknowledgement that the people have rejected him.

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          He lost one election already, then he threw a hissy fit and tried to stage a coup. The second time it will be even worse.

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      Trump says Trump needs to get immunity OR ELSE Biden won’t get any immunity, either.

      Of course, everybody’s response to that is quite simply “Don’t threaten us with a good time.” If neither of them have immunity then we all win.

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    If Trump doesn’t get immunity he’s going to die in military barracks in Georgia.

    SCotUS will have 0 say in that.

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      Is this true?

      I thought it just didn’t matter anymore because they’d already delayed long enough that nothing important would be decided before the election anyway.

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      Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump once ordered Bill Barr to prosecute Hillary Clinton. Barr refused because there was no grounds to prosecute. And Barr didn’t necessarily refuse because it was the wrong thing to do, he knew that it wouldn’t go anywhere because you cannot prosecute anybody without a legitimate reason. The judge would have thrown out the case, and no grand jury would have voted to proceed.

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      Supposedly, there’s the second ammendment. Unfortunately, the people who are 2A advocates are nearly 1-1 with Trump supporters. So no.

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    I love how Trump doesn’t even understand that it isn’t Biden attacking him, it’s the justice department doing its job of getting criminals convicted. Barking up the wrong tree, dipshit.

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    It’s crazy that this is even a political talking point. I support Biden in this election but I very much want him prosecuted if they have clear evidence of a serious crime he committee.

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    Funny to imagine how this story gets recorded and retold in history books. What a fool who was elected by fools. An honest low point for America.

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    So… Trump wants immunity in order NOT to go to Jail, but if he doesn’t and goes to jail, how will he prosecute Biden? Also, if he gets immunity and somehow becomes president, how is he going to prosecute Biden if Biden also has immunity?

    The mental gymnastics he sells his followers would almost qualify as an Olympic event.

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      I keep trying to get people to understand that he’s not smart, he’s just loud and rich… possibly not even both, and if not both, definitely just loud.

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      There’s the small fact that Biden hasn’t committed any crimes and is not facing 90+ indictments.

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        I meant preemptively. If Trump is threatening to prosecute him and he has his appointed judges on his side, then they can try some shit. But if Biden, for whatever reason that I don’t think will happen, says that he has pardoned himself and his family, then all that goes away. So then Trump can point to Biden and say, “see? he did it and he’s not guilty! I’m doing it and I’m not guilty!” Which is a bit of a fever dream but it’d be some sort of strategy to cleanse his name in the eyes of the public while staining Biden’s. That was my line of thought, not that I think Biden is guilty of crimes.

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    “If you give me immunity for my crimes, I’ll give you immunity for your crimes. Deal?”
    “I haven’t committed any crimes.”
    “…”

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        What would the reaction have been had he denied aid to Israel? The answer is fuck off, you made your bed.

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          His crucial role in support and push for the Iraq War which resulted in the estimated death of 1 million Iraqis and many american troops? Biden has been a war criminal and corrupt way before the palestine issue. You made your bed when you decided to give loyalty to these corrupt criminals. You’re the reason why we have shot candidates and why we have corrupt people in power. Gtfo

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            I don’t like that or anything else like it, including Israel, but I know the facts and the realpolitik and it was: rock -> Biden <- hard place. Israel was a big mistake by the USA and UK and as such they’re both attached by a un-severable umbilical. Nobody else would’ve acted any differently.

            My loyalty lies nowhere near Biden’s government - I’m not even from the US, I’m British - I’m just realistic about the breaks. Carry on with the principled stand and see what kind of sainthood it grants you. If you’re voting against Biden rather than opposed to Trump then you really will have a shit sandwich; your bed won’t be made at all, you’ll be sleeping rough.

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            LOL - “crucial role”.

            https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/bidens-record-on-iraq-war/

            “Biden was a consistent critic of the way the Bush administration handled the war: Its failure to exhaust diplomatic solutions, its failure to enlist a more robust group of allies for the war effort, and the lack of a plan for reconstruction of Iraq. Some of his comments proved to be quite prescient, including his warnings about the likely higher-than-expected cost and length of the war, and the complexity of “winning the peace” once Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein’s regime was toppled.”

            “I will vote for this because we should be compelling Iraq to make good on its obligations to the United Nations,” Biden said. “Because while Iraq’s illegal weapons of mass destruction program do not — do not — pose an imminent threat to our national security, in my view, they will, if left unfettered. And because a strong vote in Congress, as I said, increases the prospect for a tough, new U.N. resolution on weapons of mass destruction, it is likely to get weapons inspectors in, which, in turn, decreases the prospects of war, in my view."

            You really need to stop blaming Biden for the actions of other people.

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              Trump is corrupt but so is supporting a God damn genocide. Trump did say to finish up but he also added “you need to get peace” so thats out of context

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            give loyalty

            See, this is where we differ. I am not loyal to Biden. I would support someone else in a heartbeat, have supported others instead of him.

            I am not loyal to him, nor the Democratic party. I am, however, strongly against Trump and practically everything he does and stands for. To that end, I have to do what I can to see that he not be in a position of power again. To that end, I will vote against him, even if that means a. Vote for Biden.

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        Biden has not committed any crimes. Don’t conflate what Bibi is doing with what Joe is doing. They are not the same person.

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        Yeah almost like “genocide Joe” is an inane nickname mischaracterizing the situation or something.

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            Let’s reframe this a little bit.

            Would you agree to the nuance that a 1940s US nazi sympathizer, perhaps even one that sent them funds, isn’t as bad as the nazi soldiers or their commanders themselves? Or is that also equivalent in your eyes?

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              Imo it’s as bad, however, it’s like trump et al are going to be super nazis in all this. So if I COULD vote for Biden he is the absolute no brainer, because trump will be a million times worse.

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        You know Trump is the one who moved the embassy to Jerusalem which is ultimately the match that lit the keg.

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          Right? These Russian or right-wing grifters would be fawning over support for Israel and Bibi’s genocide if it was tRump in there right now. Fuck, the dude would probably have sent US troops to aid in ground offensives alongside the IDF.

          It’s tiresome, and I just want this collective nightmare for most, and wet dreams for others, to be over. The constant goal-post dodgeball game is beyond overplayed at this point. Anyone who still conflates what Biden is doing with regards to Israel and what tRump would do in the same position, are beyond help at this point, IMO. tRump supporters have, for nearly a decade now, refused to accept reality as it exists, and instead are perfectly content with tRump so long as he is hurting the right people. They simply cannot distance their ideology from their politics so they double-down.

          This is why MAGA constantly thinks all those voting for Biden and the Democratic party are doing so because they are loyal to Biden and the party. Most of us voting for Biden are not loyal at all to the Democrats or Biden. We vote for whomever will move the needle toward the kind of world we want to live in. tRump absolutely will do the up opposite, we already know that from the first circus of an administration.

          Whatever keeps that traitor out of positions of power is a good thing for this country, it’s people, and the world. tRump is a weak-man’s version of a strong-man. He deserves no less than jail time.

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        You can disapprove of the actions but supporting an allied nation with money or weapon sales is squarely a presidential act, nobody thinks presidents should personally be held criminally liable for their presidential duties.