• inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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    Ah yes, there’s the Democratic party’s bullshit hubris in come to know and loath.

    Hillary lost Michigan, a key states due to our absolutely bullshit electoral college, by 10k votes while there were 100k votes that voted uncommitted in the recent primary.

    Awfully stupid in my opinion to think you have things in the bag when you damn well know your voters aren’t cultural deologues like Republicans.

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    Hillary was super confident…

    It’s why she lost the 2016 election, she had all the confidence in the world, but that alone doesn’t make someone a good candidate

    Someone that acts confident when they shouldn’t, is colloquially known as a “conman”. Because what they’re selling isn’t worth buying, you’re just buying it off their confidence in themselves, which is very rarely based on reality.

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      Calling Biden a conman in relation to Trump is actually hilarious. While he’s absolutely not the candidate I want, he’s still better than Trump by all metrics

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        Meh, at least the Cheeto tells the truth as far as who he wants to kill, Biden lies out one side of his mouth, while sending bombs with the other

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          while sending bombs with the other

          You’re going to be absolutely shocked when you find out which branch of government controls the spending in the USA.

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              Arms sales =/= military actions.

              Typical Trump fascist symp, just showing off your ignorance at this point.

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                Yeah yeah yeah, every time someone says something bad about your messiah, you blame trump.

                I hate the stupid motherfucker and encourage you to look back through my history and see when I became anti-Biden.

                Hint: it was somewhere near the end of October when we started seeing what the Israelis were doing.

                My other account is the exact same name except at kbin.social before they started having problems.

                Please feel free.

                Also, if Biden needed congressional authority, then why would it be possible for him to legally bypass them?

                Because he can just aim for $1 under the reportable limits.

                Come on bud, you should know that, it was big news the first couple of times he did it.

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            “His hands are tied!” doesn’t work when we all saw him circumvent congress to sell Netanyahu weapons for genocide.

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      Someone that acts confident when they shouldn’t, is colloquially known as a “conman”.

      No, that’s incorrect.

      A “con man” aka Confidence Trickster is a grifter who gains your confidence in order to scam you.

      Having false confidence in itself does not mean someone is necessarily a swindler. It could just be that they are delusional or misinformed.

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        They’re not selling a legitimate product service, the only thing rubes are being sold on, is the confidence of the salesperson.

        Biden can be as confident as he wants to be, and some voters may assume that confidence means he’s competent.

        But Hillary was extremely confident she’d win 2016. She shouldn’t have been.

        And that over confidence directly led to her not trying as hard as she could, and voters falsely believing she had it wrapped up and they didn’t need to “hold their nose”.

        Biden and voters need to be realistic about his chances to beat trump, or it will lower his chances to beat trump.

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      Biden has beat Trump once already, Hilary never did. Maybe he’s confident for a reason.

      “He shouldn’t be confident because a different candidate was confident once and they lost, that means confidence is bad and meaningless”

      I’m sure trump is confident too, how does that make you feel? Should he be?

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    Seeing murmurs of bird flu now…just imagine an outbreak of something like bird flu over dimbulb donnie, JFC.

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        I mean, this is the first where a genuine threat of fascism was on the table. I don’t see things getting pulled back any time soon. I think the orange criminal made too many bad behaviors ok and there’s no going back. We’re gonna crumble, the only question is how soon.

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          Don’t get me wrong, I agree with you that things are in a dire state, and this might genuinely be the most important election in history. But I don’t see it ever getting better - as it stands right now, the Republican party will only continue getting crazier and more extreme, until there are no more elections. The system is fundamentally broken, and there needs to be some fundamental fix to off this wild ride.

          Ranked Choice Voting with more political parties could be one such fix. It would allow for better representation on both sides (actual leftists on the left, and people on the right who aren’t quite as despicable as is currently the case).

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            But I don’t see it ever getting better - as it stands right now, the Republican party will only continue getting crazier and more extreme, until there are no more elections.

            Them continually getting stomped in elections until they don’t hold any meaningful power anymore would make them eventually have to moderate. I don’t know that that’s what will happen, as we seem to be stuck in the American cycle of dismay with the ruling party turning into support for the out-of-power party no matter how terrible the out-of-power party is.

            But what I think it would look like is like what happened to Democrats trying to grab the Presidency during the Reagan era. They got stomped enough times in a row nationally that they basically had to change their party platform to appeal to Reagan voters.

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              But what’s the likelihood of that happening? The Republican voter base lives in an alternative world, with alternative news and alternative media - and they are working hard on perpetuating that through indoctrination, both in the education system and through religion.

              There have been so many points over the last couple of years where no rational person could keep supporting them, yet their base has grown or stayed the same. Their last president literally attempted a coup, yet there’s a good chance he’ll be re-elected. And even if he’s not, and he dies in the next couple of years - his fascist movement will not end with him.

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        Obama 2012. Sure Romney would’ve sucked ass but he probably would’ve just fumbled the whole thing comically instead of actively undoing democracy.

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      The next election being local and State, not just President. I want us to carry the momentum and really start upping the pressure and pushing the candidates we need. Together.

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        And if Trump wins, we’ll never have to worry about anyone ever running again.
        But that’ll be the least of our problems

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            I didn’t say that. I didn’t say they’re the same, I don’t think they’re the same. Go put words in someone else’s mouth.

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            As per moderator request, a unique comment for you. Enjoy.

            Typically, when someone asserts “both sides are the same,” it’s often from a Democratic-leaning conservative perspective, seeking to discredit critics of the Democratic Party. While acknowledging similarities between these 2 capitalist parties, there are significant distinctions. Encouraging a broader range of viewpoints would be more beneficial. Instead of just criticizing, inviting dissenting voices to participate actively and propose solutions would be more productive. Shifting away from first-past-the-post voting enables more accurate representation and minimizes the spoiler effect, a reform already implemented at the state level in Maine and Alaska. However, Republicans are opposing alternative electoral systems. Rather than continuing to use voting methods favored by Republicans, embracing multiple political parties ensures wider representation and engagement, benefiting citizens and the Democratic Party alike. Enhanced voter participation leads to more democratic outcomes. So, what prevents Democratic-led states from prioritizing electoral reform? Let’s take action and advocate for change within our states to ensure better representation and competition among candidates, striving for genuine representation without excuses.

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            Rofl what a fucking loser. You hear Biden did something bad and jump to accusations of, “they’re the same”.

            You’re pathetic and your reading comprehension must be that of a child’s if you think you’ve brought a valid point to this discussion.

            Again, fucking pathetic. Do better.

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          There’s only one way to ensure he doesn’t ruin our lives and our country. Only one way to secure our democracy and safety, and I’ll leave that to your imagination. I will say no more.

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          I think the implication is he’ll be in prison. Setting aside whether that’s a safe bet or not, I can totally see an 80-something trump making campaign ads from a prison cell. He won’t really have anything better to do at that point.

          Edit: typo

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            Even if he isn’t in prison or dead by then his cognitive decline will be too much for even the most addled magas to ignore.

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          Utterly unelectable is a weird way of describing someone who got 3M more votes than the other guy.

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            Yeah, that electoral college sure jumped out at her suddenly, giving her only 227 years to prepare.

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              Do you actually have a point or are you just a dick?

              Misjudging where to focus a campaign isn’t the same as being “utterly unelectable”.

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                She was going to run a bad campaign no matter what. Her arrogance allowed for nothing else. Her shitty political instincts are what made her unelectable.

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            And lost the election.

            Turns out there aren’t enough “enlightened centrists” to make up for alienating the democratic base.

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              She lost because the electoral college is broken. That’s not the same as being “utterly unelectable”.

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              It was Russia that tipped the scale, including by convincing traditionally democratic voters in key states to vote third party or not at all.

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                  And the sun was in her eyes, and there was a rock in her shoe, and the dog ate her homework, and…

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                Would not have been possible if the candidate was someone besides an unlikable, empty corporate suit who talked down to her base. Russian activity mostly focused on getting out right-wing troglodytes.

                Blame still is ultimately with Clinton and the Democratic establishment for failing to support a worthy candidate. The fact that she couldn’t even beat Donald Trump is the proof of her unelectability, regardless of interference.

                She would not be anymore electable today than she was before, because the demographics have changed forever and neoliberalism is politically bankrupt. It’s a dead end.

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                  She was by far the most qualified presidential candidate in history. You’ve fallen victim to a smear campaign, but are blissfully unaware of it.

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    Probably because nationally the Democrats have been beating polls by 9+ points since Roe V. Wade was overturned.

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    Huh. Usually when Biden totally does something in private, it’s something that centrists want progressives to think he supports.

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    How is it “in private” if youre re-posting that info here?
    It means its info that the public needs to be served with.