• ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    This isn’t the point but how did she miss a whole goat and dog at point blank range? I own zero guns but I grew up in the South and I’m pretty sure I could hit the wizard in Mario 3 with a shotgun if you let me set up the shot.

    The story should be that she’s an insane sociopath. But also, she missed! And she said construction workers were nearby and a school bus was coming. That’s some irresponsible shit.

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      The answer is by simply not giving a fuck (or actively hoping to) if you inflict unnecessary suffering on the poor animal.

      She’s very clearly an outright psychopath, so I’m guessing it was on purpose.

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    6 months ago

    Her daughter Kennedy looked confused, according to Noem, asking: “Hey, where’s Cricket?”

    Jesus tapdancing Christ

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        We know that she believes any being not immediately useful to her is unworthy of life. This is such a core part of her identity that she believes she deserves accolades for it. She didn’t just kill her dog, she did it and then bragged about it because she thinks it makes her look strong.

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        6 months ago

        You can definitely argue that a lot of preventable covid deaths in SD were a result of her terrible policy.

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      6 months ago

      “I murdered my dog because I’m willing to get my hands dirty to get the job done”

      No. You’re just a psychopath…

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    6 months ago

    and that the animal [dog] later attacked and killed a neighbor’s chickens.

    Killing the neighbour’s pets is a little bit more than misbehaving. That’s the sort of thing dogs get put down for.

    Going on to kill the goat the same day shows that she’s evil, possibly even psychopathic. And then she admits that she’s not that good of a politician, as well as a bad shot.

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      6 months ago

      From the Guardian article:

      Then, on the way home after the hunt, as Noem stopped to talk to a local family, Cricket escaped Noem’s truck and attacked the family’s chickens

      She had been using the dog to hunt pheasants earlier that day. You really can’t be pissed at a 14-month old dog (still a puppy at that age) for not knowing the difference between pheasants and chickens.

      All this does is demonstrate that she’s a terrible pet owner and a shitty person.

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      You don’t automatically Old Yeller your dog for killing a neighbor’s livestock; you either change how you are raising the dog (e.g. no more unsupervised outside time) or you acknowledge that the dog is a poor fit for your lifestyle and surrender it to a shelter.

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        I lost two chickens to one of my dogs. Now she can be around them without any problems for two years now. Know what I did? I trained my fucking dog. She’ll steal an egg though!

    • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
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      The full story is worse. It took her multiple shots to get it done. She should not have a shotgun. She should maybe have a .22 rifle and use it for learning to target shoot.

      People who are actually responsible gun owners probably hate her the most. I own no guns because I respect them and live in a city. But I was taught how to use them. My relatives have hunting camps and “harvest” deer and they all know guns are not a joke. You learn to aim before you shoot. We had piles of sand behind targets and started with BB guns. You don’t miss a whole goat.

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    South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem, a Republican seen as a potential running mate for Donald Trump, tells a story in her new book about shooting and killing her young dog and a goat

    Noem, who became governor in 2019, likened murdering her canine to having the ability and willingness in politics to do anything “difficult, messy, and ugly.”

    I remember when presidential candidate Mitt Romney sunk his political career by telling what he thought was a humorous tale of creative problem solving that involved strapping the family dog to the roof of an overloaded car. This is like that, but horrifyingly worse.

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      During the 650-mile (1,050 km) trip, Seamus got diarrhea. The Romneys were first alerted to the Irish Setter’s bowel issues when Tagg noticed brown liquid pouring down the back window, followed immediately by him and his younger brothers yelling in disgust. Romney stopped at a gas station to wash the dog, the carrier, and the car. With Seamus back in the carrier, the family continued on their way.

      I never knew the rest of the story.

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      That was before the GOP became the party of sociopathy. I’m sure loving dogs will be the next symptom of the Woke Mind Virus.

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      The crate apparently had a “windshield”. I’m a dog lover, but I’m prepared to believe that Romney’s dog was OK with travelling like that. I’m not saying that every dog would be OK with it, but I trust him to know his own dog. I mean, my dog would watch fireworks shows with me. Most other dogs would probably hate doing that, but that doesn’t mean that I was somehow abusing my dog by bringing him with me.

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    I honestly think the best take away from that story (outside of her clearly unethical response) is that she’s an absolutely trash leader who can’t even properly raise a dog - a state or the country are far beyond her skillset.

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      It’s exactly the kind of ethics the GOP wants from their kingpins when they subvert democracy: the capacity to react murderously to disobedience.

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        I think you broke the code yes. I think it’s moderately likely that “get your hands dirty” will become a phrase we hear again in the somewhat-near future as shit gets more and more real leading up to the election.

        I’m not saying that at all as a good thing, just where the GOP seems to want things to be heading.

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          “Having the strength to do the dirty work” has been a euphemism for committing selfish, barbaric atrocities for…forever, basically. A lot of the people prosecuted for Abu Ghraib used similar justification, for example.

  • Welp. There’s no way anyone could ever convince me Republicans aren’t evil now, having read all the stories of these monsters torturing or killing dogs. 😬

    You hurt a dog, you’re automatically discounted as a human-being in my eyes.

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      6 months ago

      This but for all animals. A hunting trip implies she was there to kill animals anyway.

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    So saying the quiet part out loud has now extended to bragging about being a psychopath.

    It seems that nearly every day I see another thing that future historians will be able to cite as an example of the alarmingly self-destructive behavior in the days leading up to the collapse of the US.

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    6 months ago

    Republicans are so Pro Life that I won’t doubt she’ll start her next campaign with the story of Murdering her Family Puppy!

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    6 months ago

    USA! USA!

    Cruelty is the point and “the” bible gives them dominion over the animals. This is very on-brand for the repug party.

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    On the one hand, crazy missing and what a weird set of circumstances, on the other hand, most people have never and will never have to put down a dog for something besides old age and won’t ever understand.

    I’m fairly confident she is a giant piece of crap, but there’s a large reader base that lived their entire life inside the burbs that wouldn’t ever be onboard with putting an animal down yourself. People that have never watched the new puppy run a cow to death or similar. It’s sad and infrequent but it happens.

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      My dog once crawled below my neighbour’s chicken pen and killed 2 chickens.

      Do you know what we didn’t do? Kill the dog.

      What did we do? Just buy him 2 new chickens of his choosing.

      We now have a happy cute dog, and my neighbour still has chickens. He has never again killed a chicken.

      A few years later a wild animal entered the pen and killed all of his chickens, but that’s another story.

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      People that have never watched the new puppy run a cow to death or similar. It’s sad and infrequent but it happens.

      So… Don’t put the dog around your cows if it wants to play? Seems like a really fucking simple solution.

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      Did you consider rehomng that puppy to a home with no cows? How is your first instinct to a dog living in a situation its unsuited to, “pull out a shot gun and blast it. Twice”. Putting the dog down should really be a last resort.

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      I’m rural and had a dog ol’yellered once—he loved kids, tolerated women, and would do his very best to rip the throat out of any man. I understand that sometimes the dog can simply not be allowed to go on. But man, I can’t wrap my head around expecting a shock collar to work as training, and then calling it a day after it attacks some chickens. A young dog with a prey drive might not be suited for working, but could easily be somebody’s pet. It would have cost so little to give it a chance to have a good life.

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        Somewhat similar situation here. We tried for three years with a dog that we got when she was 2 that had been surrendered back to a shelter. Incredibly strong reactive prey drive and crazy high anxiety, and we suspect trauma from her first home. We did everything we could to give her a safe, comfortable, and secure home. Fantastic with kids and most women, could become somewhat more comfortable with men working through a specific process. But if you invade her turf without prework, it wasn’t good. But it was clear she didn’t have a good quality of life and she was a significant risk.

        Working with our vet to eventually put her to sleep was incredibly hard and I still feel like we failed her. We made sure her last days were good ones though, and she went out feeling love.

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            For someone who has no idea the amount of active work, training, and therapy we did with her, you can fuck straight off with your anal-derived opinions and judgements you massive fuckstain.

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              Of course I’ll judge someone who took an animal from a shelter then killed it because it was no longer convenient. You’re the same as the person in the news article, just slightly more eloquent.

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        Our son and his wife have a Malamute who, as near as anyone can tell, is a Poodle racist. He’s totally OK around people, kids, and other dogs… UNLESS the other dog is a Poodle, he LOSES HIS SHIT.

        We love you anyway, you racist fuck!

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      wouldn’t ever be onboard with putting an animal down yourself

      It does indeed suck and you never forget every one of them. But I’d rather take the responsibility than put that on someone else.

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    Kristi Noem is a fucking monster & the world will be a better place when she is a footnote in the wastepaper basket of political history.

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      Sadly, if you don’t cause the animal undue pain (a clean shot almost certainly is not legally considered to cause undue pain, but noem didn’t do that…), you’re totally allowed to kill your pets at any time. I would definitely prefer that people who kill their pets (for reasons other than mercy/safety) are separated from the rest of society than people who shoplift, but alas.

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    She probably thinks telling this story will be sure to clinch trump’s VP slot for herself.

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      I don’t think this story would alienate her from the MAGA base. Conservatives love the aesthetics of farm life/hunting, doing the dirty work, etc. We’re talking about people who defended “grab her by the pussy”.

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        Even Republicans have dogs and love them. I think on balance this will hurt her, even from her base. People who like their dogs (if they hear about it) will be disgusted.

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          But you see, only trump’s opinion matters, and trump hates dogs. If he picks her, magats will fall in line and come up with rationalizations that what she did was good.

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            Not saying it’s right, but most people feel more attachment to their dogs than to strangers (immigrants, queers, liberals etc). So while there will definitely be maga people who still support her, what I’m saying is on average, more people who might otherwise be supporters will be disturbed.

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              I think you’re right that they’d be disturbed. But I think their cognitive dissonance will overcome that and they’ll rationalize it in whatever way they need to to see it as acceptable, because in their eyes trump never makes a mistake or does anything wrong.

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                THIS. They will go crazy(ier) from the cognitive dissonance but they’ll probably champion donnie/Kristi kind of thinking, calling dog owners “woke” and SJW, etc…

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          Not only that, but she comes off like a complete dumbass when it comes to handling guns. Even idtiot gun-fondlers probably noticed that, but might have to deal with the cognitive dissonance later…