• Got_Bent@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Does anybody really think that tens of thousands of conscripted young men living in tents, knocking on death’s door, weren’t getting at least a little jiggy with it?

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    Imagine the kind of burn Homer would have gotten today for writing The Illiad about the glorification of war, or the Oddyssey, about getting lost so bad on the way home, that you end up fighting cyclops and shagging mermeids, and only your dog recognizes you when you arrive

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    7 months ago

    Yes countless soldiers fought and defended America so that freedom persists. *deep whiff* smell the freedom, y’all. It applies to gay vampire fiction writers, too!

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    Isn’t that the American dream though? Fight wars so your kids can write gay vampire fanfiction?.. To be fair, why does anyone care though, if it tickles his fancy and isn’t illegal mind your business

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      I’d go one step further and say it’s nice. It’s nice to see someone enjoying a level of freedom and openness that’s almost been unheard of before, and it’s nice that his ancestors in part helped create it, whether intentionally approving of the results or not.

      That’s the thing about Western Liberal Democracy if it’s not free, it stops being Western Liberal Democracy. Part of the system is the freedom we have under it.

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    You don’t have to add the “gay”, there is not and there cannot be any vampire literature that isn’t extremely gay.

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        All the same vampire stories have always been about same sex people feeling wrongful desires as the suck on each other’s necks. It’s a genre about being gay and or kinky.

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          Have you seen Lost Boys? They’re not sucking on necks. They’re straight up murdering people, biting through their skulls and ripping their arms off.

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        I’m pretty sure if I was a dude I would still think vampire Kiefer Sutherland was extremely fuckable, regardless of general gender preferences. That sexy evil laugh… gives me chills just thinking about it.

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          He was a very unique and cool looking young man. When he got older and started doing 24 I couldn’t believe that all the attitude, and all the coolness factor was gone.

          But to your point, when straight dudes think another dude is cool, or handsome, they don’t want to bone them. They want to be like them, or befriend them, or sometimes fight them. We don’t always make sense.

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        Early 2000s vampire stuff was not gay. Somehow, the gayness as taken over.

        Not a bad thing, just interesting.

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          I suspect it’s more just that 1990s gay men didn’t code themselves that much in the way of fashion.

          Some were swept up in grunge, others went normcore, many wanted a career so coded themselves around that.

          The Lost boys might equally be a bunch of California grunge gays, but that has no visual coding to it to be seen.

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            Anne Rice did it waaaaay before Twilight was the wet dream in the author’s head. Even Dracula had crazy bitches in it. Sexual taboos are more freely explored in fiction, and the supernatural turns fiction up to 11.

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    This is conservatives’ worst fear, especially for the weirdos who live on compounds or quiverfull movement crazies. The idea that they will produce a ton of kids who might end up thinking for themselves and writing gay vampire fiction scares these people to death.

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        The only person I knew who was obsessed with Anne Rice came from an Uber Christian background and she is now a big leftie atheist. That’s just one person though so there’s probably tons of ultra conservatives who love reading about vampires docking or whatever.

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          I was raised in a fundamentalist Christian household and I loved Interview with the Vampire, and The Vampire Lestat novels in junior highschool.

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                  Seriously though, reading about the relationship between Louis and Armand forced me to evaluate my preconceptions about homosexuality, and figure out how to be okay with it if I were going to continue liking those characters. So, I think that it did have an impact and started me along the path to growth and acceptance.