• swag_money@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    J3 is the 3rd month that starts with J so it’s July. 49 is the 49th day of July so August 18th. easy peasy

  • ceenote@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    It might be the Julian date (I have no idea where the name comes from) which is just basically January 1st is 001, December 31st is 365, and the rest of the year is between. So this would be around December 15th.

    We used it for food expirations on some things at the convenience store I used to work at.

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      3 months ago

      Seems useful if you’re trained to read these, but it seems like a kinda shitty system to be slapping on stuff for sale to the general public.

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        I suspect they did it so people wouldn’t be put off from buying something close to expiration.

        In fairness to the people I worked for, they only put it on stuff with a short shelf life anyway, so it was all fairly close to expiring. Also, it was a convenience store. Most people ate it right away.

    • vortic@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      The name comes from the name of the person who first proposed the Julian Calendar, Julius Caesar.

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    3 months ago

    Companies are allowed to do this in some nations as long as they also distribute the cipher to grocers. For example, literally every chewing tobacco I’ve seen. This leads to higher sales because lazy employees don’t take the time to check the printout and remove expired product.

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      3 months ago

      I have no reason to doubt what you’re saying, but I really have to say this is the dumbest bullshit I’ve ever heard. The whole idea of putting expiration dates on products (and nutritional info for that matter) is for consumers to be able to interpret this stuff. Not manufacturers and not store managers. Consumers. There’s no excuse for allowing this.

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        Well, that would be the reason if they were legally required to do so, but Baby Food is the only product in the US legally required to have an expiration date.

        So, all the other food manufacturers voluntarily put expiration dates on, and they want you to buy more food, so the date on most packages is functionally meaningless

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        3 months ago

        No arguments that it’s shifty and dumb, but it’s better if the store can be held liable for selling bad product. That said, almost anything with “best by” as opposed to “expired by” is still safe to eat for probably decades.

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        3 months ago

        Like the other comment here says, no it wasn’t. It’s useful for the store to guarantee it’s good, but customers should be ignoring them as using the senses we evolved to use to detect bad food. A store can’t rely on this, partially for liability, partially for speed and consistency, but also largely because they can’t open the packaging to smell it or look at it better.

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          If I as a buyer can’t tell the difference between fresh and expired food before I buy it, then what’s the store’s incentive to not sell me something a few days or weeks after its sell-by date? Even if they want to, they can’t keep track of every product on the shelves (I’ve encountered items past their date on shelves a number of times, sometimes significantly so) and they certainly don’t check each item’s date at checkout. If customers can’t do the check as they shop, there’s no way to protect against it. And just kick the shop, customers can’t open the packaging before they buy.

          I do realise based on your comment and others that I may have been wrong (probably country dependent), printed dates might be intended more for stock keepers than for consumers, but that doesn’t mean it’s okay to hide this information from buyers.

  • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Not sure about LJ… but 349 could simply refer to the day number. Day 349 this year is December 14th.

    This is using the Julian calendar (standard calendar for most things)… maybe the J in LJ?

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    3 months ago

    That looks like a failure to regulate and standardize expiration date format which ultimately benefits corporations and fucks the consumer.

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    3 months ago

    I mean… Expiration dates are mostly a lie anyway. Just do the sniff test, probably fine.

    But, on topic, I do appreciate the post since that’s weird.

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      3 months ago

      Expiration dates give a clear and easy way to know if something is definitely still good.

      Only after the expiration date do you have the need to do the sniff

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        3 months ago

        Is milk an exception? Because the moo juice always smells a little off to me. I usually have to resort to the take a small swig and pray technique to tell.

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          pour some in a cup then smell it, sometimes it’s just the dried part by the cap that smells

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        I’ve seen food expire before the date stated, so you should also take into account where you live and the regulatory entities that manage your food and stuff.

        I’d say always do the sniff if you are worried.

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      3 months ago

      Hard to do a sniff test on an unopened item in the store. I know that’s not this exact scenario, and best by dates are iffy at best, but I’d like to have some notion of how long the product I’m about to buy has been around.

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        3 months ago

        At the homebrewing store I used to frequent, I always picked through the cooler for the youngest yeast. Then they moved the cooler behind the cash registers and they clerks would just grab the one in the front. Then stupid Northern Brewer shut down all their retail stores.

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          3 months ago

          Have you considered propagating your own yeast? You’re pretty much already doing it when you make beer, it’s super easy.

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    I looked around the packaging for other clues as suggested by another Lemming but I didn’t find anything. In fact I found the same thing printed on the front.

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        I assume the point is the “best before” dates are mostly useless. They’re useful for the store, but for a customer usually you should tell by smelling and looking at it. We evolved with senses to tell us when food has gone bad. Those dates aren’t part of it. So much food is wasted because people think those are magic and should be obayed like a law.

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          3 months ago

          On the flip side, knowing the rough best before date helps people buy the freshest stuff, since I can’t open the cream with a date that says jr402 I won’t know if it should be good for a week or a month.

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            That’s the point. People will choose to buy the “freshest” stuff, meaning it created a lot of waste. If you can’t tell what freshest then it will prevent older stuff from needing to be thrown out. If it’s being sold at the store, it’s fine.

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              That’s fine unless you are buying well in advance and need to know it will still be good by the event. It will also prevent a customer like myself from noticing an item still on the shelf is a week past the sell-by date and should have been removed. Sealed cartons and other packaging prevents us from actually seeing the food, so someone could get home and open it and find it spoilt, wasting their money. “If it’s being sold at the store, it’s fine” is a mighty optimistic view of commerce. Even at a very well -run store I’ve found several packages of sliced Jarlsberg with mold inside, well before the date. And I received one with worse mold from a different grocery delivery. That’s a Jarlsberg problem. I check them carefully, the delivery shopper didn’t. He assumed if it was being sold in the store it was fine.

        • Naich@lemmings.world
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          3 months ago

          That’s great unless you have an impaired sense of smell, like I had for the last 2 weeks following a COVID infection, or other people have permanently.

    • TwanHE@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Fresh produce has it here in there Netherlands as well. Or our supermarket has for the last few years, a letter specifies the day of the week (Monday = A) and then the week number.

      Week number we printed on the sticker machines and stuck on the start of every isle just to make it easier.