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Boo
yyyeeeaaahhh. No.
Sometimes I wonder: for a PC sitting behind a consumer router with no extra ports forwarded: How important are OS updates?
I mean if everything works for you on this version, why rock the boat? The idea is supposed to be security, fixes, and new features. We can throw out new features and fixes if you’re happy with everything as is.
Security is very buzzy and kind of vague to this type of user, but they also probably don’t tread far off from popular (likely … hopefully … safe) websites.
So hmm, if not accessing unsafe websites, and hidden behind a router NAT, and with physical safety of home, I wonder if the benefit of rocking the boat (and getting more ads and crap) is worth it.
Like definitely risks are there for any internet connected device but weighing it would be interesting. Someone in infosec should do a real analysis of this situation.
Brb. Gonna air gap my home real quick instead of updating windows.
The problem is “unsafe websites” is actually a very broad category. Even popular, reputable websites have accidentally hosted malware in the advertisements, some of which can infect without a click.
Been how mine is for nearly 4 years now
The problem with any device having any internet access at all is that it is quite trivial for a program to establish a connection to a known server (malware can initiate it) and then having those servers send commands back to the computer, effectively having control over it.
I will now urge Microsoft to suck my balls.
Hope that shit doesn’t hit the LTSC version. I’d have switched my gaming rig to Linux years ago if it played nice with my simracing hardware.
If fusion 360, solid works, OR solid Edge ran on Linux I’d deal with the annoyances.
Yup. If my pimax crystal and all my sim hardware ran on Linux I’d switch immediately. I’m sure my Kodi/mpc-be/madvr could work. Not sure about Dolby Atmos. But some of the drivers for my sim hardware already seem slightly jank in windows and I’m not sure the already small teams they have are able to support windows and Linux builds
The gaming/home theatre is the only windows machine I own.
Microsoft urges me to use a different operating system
Don’t underestimate the power of nerds. Computer nerds influence tech purchasing decisions, both at home and on the job. The less tech savvy often ask “the computer person” what they recommend. Nerds have actually been astonishingly patient with MS, for decades. But the worse MS makes Windows, the less and less likely they’re going to go with the default, “just buy Windows” answer.
A Windows update broke my wife’s install earlier this week. Her laptop has Manjaro on it now.
I agree. I’m the guy who picks, buys, assembles, and installs the OS and programs for like everyone around me. I enjoy doing it, they enjoy getting awesome PCs for good prices.
My next build for them will absolutely not be Microsoft. The average person can get away with an iPad running iOS for their computing needs. So it’ll be a user friendly Linux distro going forward.
I don’t know if they’re aware of this, but they’re also urging users to ditch Microsoft as a matter of course.
It’s going to be funny to watch their Pikachu face reaction when this decision chases off a good chunk of their users.
The vast majority of users will click okay to any box that says “do this to keep using Windows”
Without even reading it.
People said that about Netflix and their password crackdown… their profits went up.
We’ll just have to wait and see, I guess. People didn’t jump ship when Windows 8 became the norm (which didn’t last long, thankfully), so I’m not expecting the needle to move much over a feature most users will never even know exists. A man can dream, though.
The vast majority of users won’t even notice.
And this is the straw in which I will instruct Microsoft to suck shit through.
if only it recognized my wifi card, which it doesn’t. neither 10 nor 11 do
That’s actually why I installed Linux, lol.
I bought a Wi-Fi card and I couldn’t seem to make it work in Windows 10.
So I searched for the model number online and found out that it was only compatible with Windows 7, wtf?
So I installed Linux mint and it recognized the Wi-Fi card automatically.
It’s been more than a year since every decision Microsoft has made has gone against the consumer. What is the target ? Sinking the company ?
Where will the average consumer go? They can do this, because they are basically a monopoly.
Hopefully in a year years Linux gets more support and becomes a viable alternative
Edit: for me it is and I’ve been using Linux for years, but some people need certain software
Not that I’ve touched it with a ten foot pole in as many years but - Microsoft can bite my shiny metal ass.
In a family and SOHO setting there is an easy way around it,even without alternative media creating tools and Win11:
Active directory. Yeah. Microsoft. But not really.
Samba can be used as an AD server for ages now, it’s free,cheap and can run on a Pi or some NAS. These days it’s fairly easy to set up as long as you only use it for Identification services and basic networking. And Microsoft won’t bother you with their shit ever, as they don’t dare to push corporate clients too much.
I can recommend it very much. There are also full GUI distributions available,e.g. univention.
Man, having to setup GPO to stop a lot of stupid horseshit is definitely not consumer friendly, and I don’t wanna do it. Microsoft should just stop.
