Edit: There’s a lot of people in the comment section who clearly didn’t read the article so let me clarify that no, this is not about Judge Aileen Cannon. Read. The. Damn. Article.

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    3 months ago

    Any of his idiot base that think it’s worthwhile to have a…checks notes…civil war over this stupid buffoon deserve the inevitable outcome.

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    The problem is that we’re approaching politics like sports. We root for our team, and boo the other side relentlessly. Government, though, is not a zero-sum game. We don’t automatically win when the other side loses, and sometimes we all lose.

    The confusion with the Cannon case in this thread is apt, actually. Because we all do the same stuff. We just think we have facts in our side. I’ve openly wondered whether Cannon has a new RV in her driveway, after reading some of her rulings. All the shit that the MAGAs are saying about the other judges, we are saying about Cannon. We can’t both be right.

    This is the real civil war here. It won’t be Sherman carving a path to the sea. But it will be two sides with such different ideas about what is true that “patriots” will take it upon themselves to conduct asymmetrical warfare. i think it will look more like Belfast in the 1970’s than Atlanta in the 1860’s.

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    Civil war isn’t going to go the way they think it will, but the problem with these morons is they could lose a civil war and walk away convinced they won.

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    It’s telling how ambiguous this headline is (either “fans of Trump are raging” or “Trump is fanning the rage”).

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    One of the saddest parts for his followers is they think they are getting that strong man that’s going to clean up all that is wrong in their books and make it like some rose colored memory of how good things use to be before the world become too complicated for them to handle.

    Trump isn’t coming in to do that kind of hard work, he’s doing it for the title, prestige, and the fact he “deserves” to be president, he should be president because he’s special.

    Not to say it’s all about his ego which it is, but it’s also pretty handy in his mind to help deal with his mounting legal issues while slow to play out but they are piling up like Everest.

    It’s unfortunate most won’t recognize the need for a leader to do the hard work of a true servant leader. It’s been a long time since we’ve seen one of those. Many will argue we’ve seen that in Carter and even perhaps despite his advancing years a little in Biden but most people have been turned against such presidents with soft skills willing to do the hardwork.

    They seem to want those with a finger on the button ready to blow up anyone that dares challenge the US. That’s another area Trump supporters will be let down in when it comes to Russia…

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    I just don’t see it. I know plenty of trumpers and they live pretty peaceful lives. Sure they are probably resentful like the rest of us but they are also elderly and worn out.

    Come on grandpa let’s go load the musket and shoot at dem dare yankees.

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      I just don’t see it. I know plenty of trumpers and they live pretty peaceful lives.

      You don’t see it? What exactly do you think happened on January 6th 2021?

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        Bunch of elderly people joined a mosh pit and went home before it got too late.

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        Oh man. People hate that I’m not scared of the maggats.

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        Honestly, that was the red neck equivalent of a party getting out of hand

        A few violent drunks led a mob of drunk sheep

        Obviously their action were consequential and the fact they attack democracy itself (which is some they still do not understand) was serious… But this was akin to a mob of idiot Habs fans burning cars because their team lost a playoff game

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    …then do it. Start your civil war, see how far it gets you. Texans laugh all the time about “liberals” (even though they are “socially conservative liberals”) and how easy it would be to roll them over…

    But then you have the gangs of LA, NY crime families, as well as TONS of weaponry up north and more tankies and socialists craving violent revolution than you can shake a stick at.

    The only difference is that one side is stupid enough to brag about it all the time, and the other just pulls up rolling deep without as much as a speaking engagement to signal it before hand.

    These gravy seals, I swear.

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      Plus, the military kind of needs to step in and quell a civil war

      The gravy seals ain’t gonna do well

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    Say when, bitches.

    Declare it already. Quit your pussy-footing.

    All these obese retirees and their incel offspring think the fucking US Military is afraid of a little asymmetric warfare. Guys, we invented this shit. All you’re doing is opening the doors for your prison sentence to include torture at gitmo. That’s assuming you don’t get shot dead and left to rot in a field.

    glhf, literally no one is scared of you. Again, just say when.

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    The VAST majority of them won’t get off their fat-ass any more than they did on J6.

    Yes, the J6 crowd wasn’t small by any means, but they weren’t an “army” in any sense of the word, they were a mob of stupid and violent people.

    Civil war requires planning, and most Maga followers aren’t capable of anything more complex than ranting on social media.

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      I agree, their numbers, organization, and ammo reserves are not to be dismissed or underestimated.

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          They see (largely) in terms of black and white with zero shades of gray. That makes for way less infighting than the Dems. It’s their superpower.

          It’s how they’re beating the left so handily.

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            It has little to do with that, the problem is structural. They’re beating the left because the political system is structured in a way that gives overwhelming advantage to the establishment with minority votes.

            Their 35% wacko views are treated as equal to the 65% both by the political system and by the media - see manufacturing consent.

            Meanwhile the left wing candidates or proposals are always both too left and not left enough - the pincer maneuver.

            Take any issue and see how the left view is scrutinized in the mainstream compared to the right: Biden cancelling student debt? Both too left and not left enough. Obamacare? Same. Guns? Same. Pick your poison.

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              It’s because the very wealthy would rather risk anarchy and societal collapse by promoting the causes of violent thugs rather than be taxed and contribute to the well-being of the people who maintain the civilization they rely on.

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                Because the upside is immense and the downside is insignificant. The actual risk to them is tiny. They have a lot to gain (0 tax, government contracts, favourable judges, pliable lawmakers), and worst case their man doesn’t get the office, they’re roughly where they are now.

                The potential collapse of society is someone else’s problem - if they thought on how their actions affect society or the planet they wouldn’t have the money they have.

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            Hmmm I believe that but we all do it… the first pass at a problem or a situation tends to look black or white to most people…

            What happens is that most people with a modicum of common sense, education or not blinded by feelings know that the analysis is not complete then. We need to go deeper and discover / resolve the nuance… These people won’t.

            However, real life is nuanced. Most situations are a lot more complicated than black and white. So when these people attempt to actually do anything, to solve any problem, to build anything, they’ll just hit brick wall after brick wall and then the infighting will commence

            Perfect example, that Canadian idiot that sold the farm and moved to Russia because fucking Russia did have Christian values and he was tired of gay chickens in his farm or something. That’s the level of analysis he put to the task, 4 months of hell later Russia took all his money and is now getting kicked out because you cannot immigrante without knowing the Russian language

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            This. I’ve already seen more people on the left threatening each other over what they’re going to do if Trump gets in office, rather than lashing out at the right.

            If Trump decides to incite an actual war rather than just another insurrection mob at the Capitol, there will probably be a war. Rather than joining together and fighting it off, half the left will probably try to kill the other half out of spite.

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              And I bet a not-insignificant portion do the oppression olympics game and lecture people who, in their haughty opinion, are not sufficiently intersectional or whatever, not seeming to understand the ones most likely to engage in the oppression olympics (i.e., themselves) are the ones most at-risk from the threat of the right wing.

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          Yes, they should be estimated, on the premise that they’re selfish assholes who won’t share and don’t realize they can only reasonably fire one gun at a time and the hand guns will be worthless.

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    One random guy on Twitter “there will be a civil war!”

    Raw Story: “THE REPUBLICANS ARE THREATENING CIVIL WAR!”

    I guess “random Twitter account spouts bullshit” isn’t as compelling a headline.