• Rapidcreek@lemmy.worldOP
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    8 months ago

    Aside from the Fourth Amendment violations, the family separations, the astronomical costs and hyper inflation driven labor shortages in ag, construction and service industries, it will go swimmingly.

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      8 months ago

      America has shown that Amendment rights are not concrete and will be ignored when convenient. As for the economy, they profoundly do not care.

  • carl_dungeon@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Let’s deport this bitch and half or Utah while we’re at it. I think all these fucks should go to some maga freedom farm island somewhere deep in the Atlantic and just stay there rubbing trumps nipples

  • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world
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    Utah Rep. Angela Romero, D-Salt Lake City, said Tuesday she was troubled by Maloy’s seeming embrace of Trump’s anti-immigrant rhetoric.

    “It’s unfortunate we’re dehumanizing people who are looking for a better life for their family,” Romero said.

    . . .“I’m worried about anyone who is of Hispanic origin,” Romero said. “I hear the rhetoric and fear that people who look like me will be targeted. The panic and fear this type of rhetoric brings turn people against each other.”

    This is exactly what will happen, it’s exactly what was happening 90 years ago in Germany, and she is right to be concerned. Unless we stop it in November, this is only the start.

    But what really got my attention is the photo of Celeste Maloy. Maybe it’s the angle, most likely it’s the hair, but she did not initially strike me as being 100% white. Normally I don’t care. But when a person of non-white ethnicity is spouting the modern-day equivalent of Aryan race theory, it gets my attention.

    For example, I know a person of obvious Hispanic origin that works near here. I run into him pretty frequently, and there are a lot of people just like him in this area, even though it’s nowhere near the southern border. There are a lot of Mexican transplants here, and my guess is that he’s second or third generation Mexican. He’s got a wife that looks the same, and kids too. Good people, perfect English, not poorly educated but not academics either, decent, hard working. Salt of the earth.

    But eight years or so ago this guy went full Trump, and now he’s got his co-worker to reinforce it: a white guy who is just completely batshit insane anyway, but is also HARD right wing, not just a Trumper but a guy with strong American History X vibes, a person I suspect would very much enjoy lining anyone up against a wall. They’re not allowed to sport political clothing or accessories at work, but if I had to bet on it I’d put a confident $20 on the white guy having racist ink, in addition to the shit that spews out of his mouth.

    Day in and day out, they reinforce each other in all this at work, openly mocking anyone who doesn’t line up with their views; it’s only by accident I overheard it at all. But I did, and it chilled me to the core, because it was as insanely bad as anything I’d ever heard, or even heard about.

    Yet even if this Hispanic guy wanted to hear different opinions, which is unlikely to start with, it would never get through because his right-wing buddy would shoot it down hard. Both of them are 100% anti-immigrant, god-save-me-from-the-caravans MAGA Trump stans.

    And meanwhile the Hispanic guy seems to have zero clue, none, that he and his pretty wife and their cute curly headed young kids look exactly like the people they both so loudly despise.

    Every time I see him or his wife and family, I wonder exactly what Angela Romero is saying out loud now.

    • Sanctus@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Why wait until November? Get off your screens and onto the streets! Pack your capital with people all demanding this insurrectionist traitor be barred from running and removed from the ballot! Nothing gets shit done like the threat of violence! Just like they employ on us every day!

    • Ellecram@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      I recently watched the following program on PBS: Nazi Town, USA which described the rise of fascism in America at the same time as the Nazis in Germany. It was an eye opening experience and one that has a hauntingly similar essence to our current situation in the USA.

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    8 months ago

    Breaking News: Crazy white Republican Mormon from Utah is super racist and hates immigrants or brown people! In other news, water is wet.

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    8 months ago

    I’m all for people trying to find a better life, and I understand why they come here. Unfortunately, those very same people breaking the existing laws are stoking the flames these ignorant and bigoted assclowns use to sow racial division via their idiotic arguments. The more people that come in illegally, the more these arguments make sense to certain people.

    We need better immigration control, that is for sure. We can’t just let EVERYBODY in. What that looks like, I have no idea, but the vast majority of people making it in to sidestep certain immigration laws are not using the proper channels now anyway, so things seem completely broken. This is not just people walking across the Southern border either, there are plenty of wealthy folks from elsewhere sidestepping the laws as well.

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      8 months ago

      Asking for asylum is not only legal in the US, but in international law. To seek asylum you must stand on US soil.

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        Seeking asylum would be the “proper channel”. Just walking across the border is not the same as requesting or applying for asylum. This is my point exactly.

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            There are ports of entry specifically for this purpose. https://www.rescue.org/article/it-legal-cross-us-border-seek-asylum

            You don’t need to sneak into the country and THEN request asylum. You could also drive, fly, or boat, just so long as you declare your request for asylum at the proper port of entry.

            I’m not here arguing the law, or the process, this is just how it is at current, and has been in flux for decades. The problem is that the more people don’t follow these procedures, the more the anti-immigration lobby gets their point made and succeeds in all the fear mongering tactics they employ.

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              Well, first you have to have an appointment for a point of entry, and in the US you could wait weeks, if not months for that date. But, think what you must.

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                No. As the link says, anyone requesting asylum at a point of entry will not be turned away. Before you start spouting equally as ignorant shit about the process, get informed. You’re just as idiotic as the bigoted assholes on the other side of your argument. Be better than that.

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      To my understanding, the majority of undocumented immigrants are here legally, seasonally. They just don’t return to their home country in whatever off season for their industry is.

      So it is important to remember that many of the “illegals” we are dealing with, are only sometimes illegal. And I hate saying it, but during the off season, they are very likely to be victim of literal slave labor, either through lack of payment, paying an illegally low amount, and even human trafficking.

      Whenever fox news starts showing videos of buses of migrants coming to the border with the federal government doing nothing, that’s just footage of seasonal farm workers entering the country.

      We are dealing with a humanitarian issue with global causes and consequences.