If the owner of the standard notes will now be a proton, doesn’t that contradict this principle? I have a proton email account but I don’t want it linked to my standard notes account. I don’t strongly trust companies that offer packaged services like google or Microsoft. I prefer to have one service from one company. I am afraid that now I will have to change where I save my notes. What do you guys think about this?

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    Proton is a greedy company that doesn’t like interoperability and likes to add features designed in a way to keep people locked their Web UI and applications.

    That’s nonsense. Proton has built everything around PGP and allows uploading public keys for users not using Proton Mail so that you can messaging them with Proton’s PGP system automatically.

    https://proton.me/blog/openpgp-crypto-refresh

    There’s 0 vendor lock in (in the entire Proton ecosystem) and there’s tons of open sourced code.

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      There’s 0 vendor lock in (in the entire Proton ecosystem)

      What definition are you using for lock-in? Because I’m pretty sure the Proton ecosystem qualifies to some degree.

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        Q: Can I get the information I put into Proton back out and move to another service without paying Proton any money or extreme hardship?

        A: Yes.

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      There’s no vendor lock in until you realize your emails are essentially hostage of their apps and a bridge that may be shutdown at any point. If you can’t simply setup a regular email client then there’s vendor lock in, not even Microsoft does that.

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          Yes, but you can reliable use their service with a generic email client, specially on iOS for instance. The bridge doesn’t even provide everything a IMAP server does and there’s isn’t a way to get get calendars and contacts.

          That bridge and the fact they don’t use generic IMAP/SMTP/CardDav/CalDav is a form of vendor lock-in. Other providers are also capable of encrypting email with PGP on a open manner and still use those generic protocols.

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            Other providers will return garbage to your mail client. The mail client itself must have PGP capability (plenty don’t).

            The bridge doesn’t even provide everything a IMAP server does

            I’ve yet to find any functionality missing from the bridge’s IMAP server that’s missing from any other IMAP server.

            and there’s isn’t a way to get get calendars and contacts.

            There’s not currently a real time way to get that data, but it’s hardly “vendor lockin.”

            specially on iOS for instance

            There’s something ironic to me about chewing Proton out for alleged vendor lock in while using iOS / Apple products.