• mctoasterson@reddthat.com
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    6 months ago

    Allow me to point to the cognitive dissonance that should be occurring among the Gaza ceasefire types -

    Examine your logic of “Government X is bad, therefore it’s good when bad things happen to its civilians.”

    I’d suggest this way of thinking is flawed in both situations.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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        If Nuland promising to do acts of terrorism in Russia isn’t enough for you to put two and two together then there’s no helping you.

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      6 months ago

      This is a ridiculous accusation. The West had warned Russia and Russia chose to brush off the warning. ISIS has claimed responsibility. Face it, Putin is just trying to spread conspiracy theories to cover up his failure as a leader.

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          What election? Do you mean the one where the opposition’s leader was murdered?

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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            Navalny never had more than like 2% support in Russia, Calling him the opposition leader shows that you’re utterly clueless on the subject of Russian politics. The actual opposition in Russia is KPRF as opposed to a fucking west backed fascist which is what Navalny was.

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            6 months ago

            The opposition

            There were three opposition parties, actually. And I assume you’re talking about the blood clot that nazi got in prison, right? Any actual evidence pointing to that being unnatural, or are we doing the standard blueanon “putin is behind this somehow” line of conspiratorial thinking?

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              Surely you’re familiar with controlled opposition, people who run merely to provide the illusion of a real election while any real contenders are kept dead, silenced, locked up, off the ballot, or otherwise suppressed?

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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        In what way has Russia chosen to brush off the warning? Meanwhile, any proxy group can claim responsibility, the fact that you treat that as some sort of evidence says volumes. One of your regime’s top ghouls went on TV and promised to conduct acts of terrorism in Russia. Now we’re seeing acts of terrorism being conducted in Russia. These are the facts of the situation.

        The fact that internet trolls are now trying to paint this as a conspiracy theory is just the repeat of the Nord Stream nonsense. Your regime is famous for doing precisely these sorts of attacks buddy.

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          In what way has Russia chosen to brush off the warning?

          This was well documented with statements released to Russian state media.

          One of your regime’s top ghouls went on TV and promised to conduct acts of terrorism in Russia.

          She explicitly said battlefield, not concert halls. Considering the US passed along intelligence to the Russians, what’s the supposed angle here? What 5D chess is the US playing? Come on, at least come up with something coherent.

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            What Putin actually said in your second link is that the west was using terrorism as blackmail. Nowhere did he dismiss it.

            She explicitly said battlefield, not concert halls. Considering the US passed along intelligence to the Russians, what’s the supposed angle here? What 5D chess is the US playing? Come on, at least come up with something coherent.

            She explicitly said asymmetric warfare which means terrorism. US did not pass any concrete intelligence to Russia either. The angle here is the same as it’s always been, to try and cause civil unrest by any means necessary.

            Also, here’s Emily Harding, who is a former CIA operative within the US government-funded think tank CSIS saying: “if we find a way to make the Russian population at home understand the costs of this conflict to them in their hometowns”.

            https://www.csis.org/analysis/ukraine-balance-battlefield-update-war-ukraine

            Here’s Gen. Milley: “There should be no Russian who goes to sleep without wondering if they’re going to get their throat slit in the middle of the night,” Milley said, according to an official with knowledge of the event. “You gotta get back there, and create a campaign behind the lines.”

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/04/ukraine-counteroffensive-us-planning-russia-war/

            The sentiment in Washington before the Moscow attack was that Russians needed to experience firsthand the impact of the war in Ukraine. This attitude intensified as US sanctions proved ineffective, Russian advancements in Ukraine quickened, and President Putin received a high level of support from the Russian population during recent elections.

            Previous attempts to make Russians understand the war’s effects included drone strikes on major city centers, attacks on infrastructure, and efforts to destabilize Russia’s economy.

            This is what your terrorist state does everywhere because your country is a plague upon humanity. This is what you’re all about https://razedbywolves.blogspot.com/2021/08/a-detailed-chronological-list-of-us_5.html?m=1

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    ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attacks. My thoughts go out to the victims, their families, and the people of Russia. This is just terrible.

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      6 months ago

      It’s plausible, considering Russia helped the USA in certain Middle Eastern wars conflicts

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        Do you think groups like radical Islamic organizations only attack targets when they’re associated with American actions…?

        Russia has a long history of conflict with these types of groups, both internally (Caucuses) and externally (Syria, Afghanistan, etc.).

        A history I might add, that predates American influence in the Middle East, much less the War on Terror.

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          Sometimes a kiss is just a kiss and a comment is just a comment. Russia bad, but they do good things, sometimes (like blocking recent UN resos). So I do not kneejerk default to blaming Russia. I do tend to be more critical of my own country, having dug deeper than the whitewashed revisionist history they serve in public schools, moreso in public schools. So I was actually thinking his my own country directly contributed to the creation of the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and Da’esh. If that bothers you, that’s a you problem and nothing to do with me.

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            Maybe their are situations when a rambling word salad is the right answer, but I haven’t come across any, yet.

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                Analysis is breaking something apart to consider its pieces.

                A classic move that avoids the work of analysis is to assign a judgment to an entire unit, without any reference to its specific parts.

                A lot of work has gone into making this a culturally-accepted method of response, but now that it is it’s like an instant win for the person eschewing the analysis with a mic drop insult.

                Overall, the pattern tends to block the interaction of ideas.

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                  I wasn’t trying to be insulting, I was trying to lazily browse before sleep, and the reply to an offhand musing seemed frankly rude in tone.

                  Sometimes it’s okay to analyze further than an initial thought for days without replying and sometimes it’s ok to make a considered comment weekend a detailed analysis on the spot while browsing the Internet.