Parent, student, or staff, what’s the dumbest damn regulation you’ve personally come across at an educational institution?

  • grasshopper_mouse@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    My high-school math teacher made us all submit our work in these tiny notebooks that were like less than half the size of an American standard notebook, with unlined paper. He would write the homework problems on the board and then you had to copy them into the tiny-ass notebook and then hand write all your work on the single tiny-ass page, he would fail you if you used more than one page or side of a page because “One page is all the room you need to work out a problem.”

    I am really horribly bad at math and even writing numbers down is hard for me, sometimes i can’t even read what I wrote, so being forced to write them even smaller was a nightmare. I barely passed his class. Plus he was just a total dick in general to anyone who struggled in his class, and most students did (it was already the math class for dumb people), and we could all tell he didn’t want to be there.

    I hope he’s miserable whenever he is now.

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      My algebra teacher was an ex Army Airborne Ranger who hated kids, and probably people in general. Whenever I asked a question because I legitimately didn’t understand why a formula worked the way it did, he would tell me to shut up. When i finally protested and said “I can’t shut up because I don’t understand!”, he made me stand outside the door to the classroom for the rest of the period.

      • BigLgame@lemy.lol
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        3 months ago

        I had a teacher like this senior year, finally one time when she made me stand outside I just went out to the parking lot and drove away and never went back to that school. Switched to a virtual program and passed that way.

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          3 months ago

          Wow, that’s wild. There were no virtual programs when I was in high school, so that wasn’t an option for me. It wasn’t until several years later that colleges started offering remote learning programs by sending VHS tapes in the mail. Haha.

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            Yeah it was the early days of that kinda thing, went from a c-d student to an A student right away. Should’ve been working that way the whole time for me.

  • Rhusta@midwest.social
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    3 months ago

    I was taking classes at a community college around I wanna say 2011 or 2012. Teachers didn’t want you to use phones during class because they didn’t want you to cheat or be distracted, but there was a big push from the administration to get students to buy digital copies of the textbooks (I assumed because physical copies can be sold used and that was eating into their profits). But reading the digital textbooks on your smartphone was in direct conflict with the no phone policy. So the workaround they found was to say, “phones are not allowed but tablets are ok and encouraged” (which is silly because a tablet can do anything a phone can do). To add confusion around this time phone manufacturers were exploring with making bigger and bigger screens, meanwhile tablets were exploring being more portable, so there was ambiguity in the distinction between the two both in function and physical dimensions. So how did they determine what devices were allowed and which ones were banned you ask? They landed on an arbitrary dimension of 7 inches. Anything smaller than 7 inches was a phone and was clearly being used to cheat, anything larger was a tablet and was an instructional tool. Teachers were given rulers to measure devices and if you were caught using a device smaller than 7 inches you would be disciplined for academic dishonesty. Mind you we also had laptops that also were not viewed as an issue, the school had free WiFi everywhere on campus, and we had apps like fb messnger for messaging and Skype and google voice for phone calls and also access to just Google, so there really was no distinction in mechanisms for academic dishonesty or for distractions between the two.

  • meanmon13@lemmy.zip
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    3 months ago

    My highschool insisted t-shirts were designed to be tucked in and thus anyone wearing a t-shirt had to have it tucked in or be sent home. I have always worn button-up shirts untucked and they didn’t seem to have a problem with that…

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      3 months ago

      That’s really odd, since it’s pretty much the opposite. Button up shirts are usually designed for tucking, and T-shirts for wearing untucked.

  • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    Just wait till you get hired by a large corporation. It boggles the mind how idiotic bureaucracy can be.

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      4 months ago

      Twice I’ve found myself working in the corporate world and the amount of busy work and needless things completely boggled my mind.

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        4 months ago

        I was working at a small agile company… we were acquired by an ogre because we were so profitable. Our parent company has been trying it’s damnedest to reduce our profitability with as many bullshit policies as it can manage.

  • muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    You can’t be late more than x times. Sounds fair till u realise the school bus was always late hence racking up like 200 official warnings. School couldn’t change the rule cos government regulations bus couldn’t get there sooner cos government refused to change the shedule.

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      4 months ago

      My school briefly had a rule that when you were late, you could take a note (3 notes = detention), OR you could go to headmaster and explain yourself during lunchbreak.

      Lunchbreak was 40 minutes, so if you stood there for more than 40 minutes, you’d be late for the next class, meaning you’d of course show up again tomorrow. Repeat for a while and there were kids lined up through the hallway, standing in line to explain they were late due to standing in line.

      The rule only lasted a few weeks. They changed it so that you could get 9 notes before detention.

    • Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      Why couldn’t the school change the rule though? Weren’t they free to have implemented it in the first place? Once it became apparent it was unworkable couldn’t they have changed it?

    • simple@lemm.ee
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      4 months ago

      My school at some point tried to be very extreme about being late. A new rule was that if you were late for even 1 minute, you won’t be allowed in the school.

      I was literally walking to the door and saw a kid go in, but I wasn’t allowed in because oh I guess I was a few seconds too late.

      Me and other teenagers crowded around the front door and the exchange was basically this

      “So you won’t let us in?”

      “No, you were late. Go home.”

      And we all shrugged and took the day off. Needless to say the rule didn’t last very long and there were many angry parents.

      • Late2TheParty@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        Homie! My school was neighbors to a bar right next to the train station. When they said, “no,” I said party!

  • SeaJ@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    Write each vocabulary word 20 times if you have to go to the bathroom during class. Not a great policy for seven year olds and resulted in several accidents (including me).

    We also could not talk to each other during lunch at all. Paddling was also still allowed.

  • BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Was in an AP English class, and we were given a book on AP format for writing essays and such (think proper way to cite sources, alphabetize authors, other grammatical and formatting rules, etc). The class was given an example handout and told to group up into fours and go over the handout, finding mistakes and such based on the book previously mentioned.

    When we went over it as a class, every group found basically every mistake except one. Every group missed this one mistake, and none of us flagged it because the book we were supposed to base all of this off of stated that it, in fact, was not a mistake. Since it was a graded assignment, we started debating with the teacher that since everyone didn’t flag it, and the book we were given said it was actually correct, we shouldn’t be penalized for it.

    The teacher, however, refused, stating that it was incorrect based on AP formatting standards. Students even showed her, in the book we were given, where it said that the “mistake” was in fact correct. She refused to budge, and arguing continued.

    The discussion ended when she (the teacher) finally said, “I’m the only one in this room with a Master’s degree in English, you got it wrong, I’m not hearing further debate on this,” and took the points off from all of us.

    Same thing happened with a math teacher (who was an absolute piece of shit, literally everyone including the staff hated him, but that’s for another time). Everyone got a problem wrong, and when he went over it, several students pointed out the answer we all got was correct based on how we were initially shown how to solve the problem. He pulled the same “I’m the only one here with a degree in mathematics, so none of you are getting the points for it because you’re just wrong.”

    Several students went to other math teachers and showed it to them, who in turn went to the piece of shit and not only pointed out that he was wrong, but the head of the math department was basically demanding either the points be restored or the question thrown out. The next class he went on a long spiel about how “after conversing with several of my other academic colleagues, it was brought to my attention it was a poorly designed question, and thus I will be removing it from all of the tests.”

    Just fucking admit when you’re wrong, all you’re teaching us with your fancy degrees is that you’re a prick and to resent authority figures.

    • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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      3 months ago

      Just fucking admit when you’re wrong, all you’re teaching us with your fancy degrees is that you’re a prick and to resent authority figures.

      This is correct; there is a section in the Aviation Instructor’s Handbook about this. It is important for a teacher to establish themselves as a subject matter expert, you absolutely should appear knowledgeable and competent. There are ways to do this wrong. For instance, if you don’t know something, just make shit up. If a student asked a question I didn’t know the answer to, I had a go-to technique for handling it: I would turn it into a lesson on aviation reference materials. “What book would you look for that in? Let’s see if we can go find it.” Another way to undermine your own credibility is to insist you’re right no matter what. Your students WILL see through that and it WILL undermine your credibility.

      And it’s one thing to pull that shit when you’re a high school English teacher and you’re not responsible for anyone else’s safety. A flight instructor is not only a teacher, but also sometimes the only qualified airman on the plane. “I don’t want to fly with you anymore, you scare me. A real expert pilot doesn’t have to pretend to know what he’s talking about.”

      Your students are smart, capable scholars and they should be respected as such. It’s remarkable how many people are in education professions that don’t get this.

  • sibannac@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Lose your punishment stamp card? We’ll assume it was full and get the next card(it went green, blue, then red.) and detention essays. Fill or lose another card double the previous punishment. I burned the cards I got and handed the ashes to the principal at the end of the year.

  • NorthWestWind@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    My school cannot do anything on Sunday except Christian fellowship. One time there was a competition on Sunday and one of the teachers is needed to guide the students, but got denied by the school.

    (Before you ask me why did I attend a Christian school, it’s because other schools that are not Christian sucked academically)

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    3 months ago

    In middle school, we had some militaristic gym coaches. Youd think we were in boot camp or something? They have very specific rules that had to be followed to a T.

    You had to wear briefs, no boxers allowed. If you did have boxers, you had to have briefs under them.

    You had to wear the school gym uniform, no exceptions.

    The provided shorts were super short, so you could also wear sweats, but you had to wear the shorts underneath them.

    You had to have your shirt tucked in.

    You had to form a line in your designated spot and wait on the playground for the class to start before the gym coaches would arrive to take attendance. This was in the SoCal heat.

    During attendance, the coach would also inspect your uniform. Youd have to show the band of your briefs and shorts to show compliance with the rules.

    You had to use the gym shower, no exceptions. God that was awful and awkward.

    You break enough rules and youd collected “non-strips”, like a demerit, which would earn you detention.

    All that hubub and all we ever did was run laps on the field. We used the gym once or twice, but I cant even remember what we did. All the attendance, uniform crap, and shower took up most of the period.

    Its no wonder I hated gym class and exercising after dealing with that shit. It wasnt till I hit my 30s that I realized I quite enjoyed working out and hiking.

    • BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world
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      Yeah, I remember one of my teachers (I think my high school biology teacher) chastising us a bit one day because most of the class would come from PE before hers. She was complaining that we smelled like sweat and working out and all that.

      But we weren’t allowed (or given even close to enough time at the end of the PE class) to use the showers. You basically showed up, had until the second bell (about 5 minutes after the first) to be in the gym ready to go, you’d run/play/workout/whatever for almost an hour straight, and then be given at most 5 minutes to change and go to your next class.

      No shit we stank, and when we asked why we couldn’t use the showers, we were told there was no way for us to be monitored in there, so it left too many opportunities for misdeeds and shit.

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        3 months ago

        Perhaps, but middle-schoolers genuinely stink to high heaven, especially after P/E. I think one can imagine more obvious/less conspiratorial reasons for showers being mandatory.

      • Delphia@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        The underwear rule could have more to do with accidental flashing if the uniform shorts have very short legs.

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      Yeah fuck gym class. I actually think it’s super important for kids to be active but the way it’s implemented, especially at the junior high and high school levels, is asinine. And your situation sucked, what a stupid amount of bullshit!

      I was a habitual skipper of gym class from about grade 2 until I graduated high school. I’d only participate enough to get a D, and some marking periods I misjudged and got an F. The only times I didn’t try to skip were when we had the weight room, because I actually liked that. But failing gym class had exactly zero impact on anything in my life. My dad gave me the whole “I’d be disappointed in you, but I’ve learned not to have expectations so you can’t disappoint me” schpiel, which whatever, emotional manipulation was my parents’ bread and butter, so I didn’t really care. Other than that, no repercussions at all.

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    4 months ago

    I got suspended once because someone “punched” me as a joke. By the letter of the regulation it counted as a fist fight even though (a) we weren’t fighting and (b) I didn’t do the punching. Good times.

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      Lol similar things to me but only with a disciplinary letter saying I was being punched. We were joking, it was not a punch (it was more like a ticklish thing that I exaggerated a bit), and we had both to go in front of the school principal. Wonderful

    • ouRKaoS@lemmy.today
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      4 months ago

      Zero tolerance fighting rules are the dumbest thing ever. I told my daughter if she ever got hit at school, beat the fuck out of them until I get there and then we’re going for ice cream.

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    No backpacks. We had to have all of our books and class work on us at all time due to poor locker placement as the school was being renovated.

    But hey, messenger bags were 100% fine. What the fuck.

    • Catsrules@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      Have you seen the videos of students bringing anything but backpacks in opposition to this.

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        No, but I want to now. I’m glad I am out of school for this reason.

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    4 months ago

    Not allowing to go to the toilet whilst in your lessons and only during break/lunch time.

    This was such an issue since needing a toilet is a natural thing and it’s not something we can control/control for very long and it’s very bad if we do so, yet teachers would literally send out detentions/warnings if we even attempted, which was so idiotic of itself.

    The reason we couldn’t use the toilet whilst we were in our lesson, was cuz to the teachers, they though it was an excuse for us to skip lessons, which already caused many ppl inc myself to immediately lose trust in our teachers and therefore internalise our problems, which was a huge case at my secondary school.

    I hid so much shit from people at the time cuz of teachers behaviour like this but also didn’t help that coming from a toxic household, just made things ten times worse due to it.

    • Delphia@lemmy.world
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      We had one teacher who decided this was the rule in his class and the school backed him. We also had an absolute madlad who insisted for 20 minutes that he needed to go to the toilet and when constantly refused shit his pants on purpose.

      The teacher was fucking apoplectic demanding he get up and get out and he just sat there “You said no, deal with it. Call the principal down here if you dont like it but I’m not moving from this chair for another 10 minutes.”

      Nobody ever gave him a hard time about it, we all appreciated him taking one (or a 2) for the team they rescinded that policy shortly after.

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        We had a fucking legend shit in a teacher’s trashcan when the teacher wouldn’t let him go to the bathroom. Teacher was one of the infamously strict “zero bathroom breaks, you should have gone before class and can hold it until afterwards” types. So after asking a few times and getting denied, the kid just dropped trou and squirted molten hatred into the teacher’s desk side trashcan.

        And yes, the teacher changed his rule following the incident.

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      4 months ago

      TBF, students using going to the bathroom as an excuse to do other things is very real. Not all student do it, but some do and these people cause a lot of issues.

      I generally keep the rules: leave your phone in the classroom and be back in 10 minutes.

      The amount of students that suddenly don’t have to go anymore once they’re reminded they need to leave their phone is very high.

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      There’s a school nearby us for which the teacher must call a duty teacher for the student to go to the toilet. That’s at least 30 seconds of the class wasted.

      At ours, I say to the student they better be fast, and they are. If it’s 5-10 minutes to the end of class I ask if they can hold it, respectfully (they’re 16, honestly) and they usually acquiesce. If it’s a girl I wouldn’t be harsh and let me them go, but that’s because I almost rarely get requests from girls. Boys just wanna piss.

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    I went to a religious highschool, and at the time I was (shocker) a teenager. You could sign up either for religious education, or for Christian classes. Me being an atheist (and, I stress again, a teenager), went for the least terrible option.

    After the first guest teacher came in to talk about their own religion, we got a new rule.

    “Students are not allowed to ask more than 5 questions each to guest teachers”.

    One class later that was changed to

    “Students are only allowed to ask 3 respectful questions to guest teachers”

    That rule was then dropped, and I get a stern talking to explaining that I, personally, was allowed to ask only a single question during religious education classes.

    And then I didn’t have to follow those classes anymore, which was nice. But with a couple of years of maturity on me, I feel like I could have been nicer to the poor guest teachers.

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      Man, I loved my middle/high school’s religion classes as an Agnostic.

      It was a super fancy prep school, so they went all in with the religion classes being ‘academic’ with the teachers needing a relevant PhD or Masters.

      I still remember my very conservative Old Testament teacher writing all sorts of passive aggressive statements across my envelope pushing essays and then begrudgingly giving them A- grades.

      The other teacher for NT and electives was awesome though. Instilled a real passion (pun intended) for the material with fun classes that did things like look at early Christianity as a cult and the sociological factors going into it or reading bizarre apocrypha like the Infancy Gospel of Thomas (which in later years I realized was less ‘bizarre’ and more subversive and probably even satirical).

      Religion could be a really cool class, and it’s a shame cowardly institutions try to make it “indoctrination by any other name” as opposed to “let’s learn about the criterion of embarrassment and Peter’s denials.”