Why does the compromise guy have a hammer and sickle on him? Is it because these countries were formally part of the USSR?
Today were can clearly see that, communism was always a red herring. Tankies during cold war and tankies today (that love to dress in American flags), were always about supporting of totalitarian regimes.
The hammer and sickle is to support USSR.
800 years of russian state imperialism isnt enough to convince some people that the rest of Eastern Europe has truly had enough of one of their own imposing their big brother geopolitics on the rest of them. Every shitty empire has their MO, for russia, its always been a game of lies, deceit, and muddying the waters of truth. The guy in the middle is someone whos been drinking water from a poisoned well somewhere.
Eastern Europe has truly had enough of one of their own imposing their big brother geopolitics on the rest of them.
Yeah! That’s the US’s job!
“Hurr durr, It’s bad when the US do it but it’s fine if Russia does it”
“Hurr durr, it’s unacceptable to us white liberals when everybody but the US does it."
Are you still here, white supremacist? Have you been priced out of the copium market, perhaps?
When you call a marxist a liberal, we know your brain is soup.
So you don’t understand what the term “Marxist” actually means?
Color me surprised… do you need me to explain it to you, liberal? Fine - I will.
Marxist simply means that you understand capitalism through a Marxist lens - that’s it. Nothing more, nothing less.
You can be a Marxist and be a socialist.
You can be a Marxist and be a fascist.
You can be a Marxist and be the most exploitative and parasitic capitalist around.
Hell, you can be a Marxist while also being the most money-grubbing banker in the west - Marxism will even help you achieve that.
Are you getting this, liberal? Or is it still flying over your head?
You are stupid
You getting your feels hurt does not imply any failure on my part, okay?
You should probably get some psychiatrist to help you, your brain clearly doesn’t work.
Also, normal people learn very early in life that the expected social behavior is to share the minimum amount of information needed to be understood. No capitalist will ever self describe as a Marxist.
Oooooh… I’m so sorry. You conflated ideology with identity - and now you’ve gone and got your ego hurt on the rocks of political reality.
Yeah - that’s never a good idea. It’s a recipe for disillusionment.
No capitalist will ever self describe as a Marxist.
That’s because they don’t feel the need to stake their egos to the term “Marxist” like you do. Come here to Africa - I’ll show you “Marxist” neoliberals aplenty. You couldn’t throw a brick in one of our parliaments without hitting one.
Hot take, Tankies aren’t as bad as Zionists, and I know which group there’s more of, and has more influence and power.
Both seem to be championing nazi rhetorics and methods.
One is doing that on a segment of a niche internet forum, and the other is doing that on millions of humans. Like I said, I know which ones worse. Zionists get people killed. Tankies yell about things that already happened.
Tankies yell about things that already happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1930–1933
Sometimes they don’t talk about things that happened.
Is that worse than creating conditions to prolong ongoing genocide though?
First of all I AM NOT DEFENDING ZIONISTS.
However, the Soviet Famine killed between 5.7 and 8.7 million people and the population of Gaza and the west bank is only ~5 million, so the famine might have been worse, but no one wins when you play the suffering Olympics.
Its more power mapping than suffering Olympics. Tankies can only argue to justify things, there are no tankies in control of countries or influencing countries budgets and agendas. There are Zionists that control countries with massive militaries though. There are zionists in media influencing millions daily. You can be mad at tankies for defending things but they had no hand in perpetuating them, you cannot say the same of Zionists. Why spend time being mad at groups that don’t influence anything?
Why spend time being mad at groups that don’t influence anything?
They influence discourse on here, and if “The kulaks deserved it and the deportation of the Crimean Tatars was holsum” becomes normalized, I sure as shit ain’t sticking around any more than I would stick around someplace where Nazis are normalized.
Spreading fascist talking points in an effort to discourage voters in the West from sending aid to Ukraine also has a very real effect.
And neither of them are as bad as 1940s Nazis. And those aren’t as bad Maoists. A rotten apple is a rotten apple no matter the variety.
Cops are rotten apples, So are nonprofit universities that use massive endowments to essentially be for profit. No one would claim they’re just as detrimental to society as each other. One of the groups is clearly worse and it’s surprising how many people are refusing to engage with that idea. If you think Zionists arent getting people killed and Tankies are, I really don’t know what to tell you.
My friend, you are on a web platform specifically designed to engage in every conversation, including that one. The point everyone who replied to you is try to make is that you going into a conversation thread and sidetracking with no additional value has the same energy as saying “all lives matter” as a reply to black lives matter. No shit Sherlock, but you’re not doing any good by throwing in “but, zionists” to the conversation at hand.
Is that comparison not me engaging in the discussion? Or is it only engagement when you agree with it? Zionists are killing people, right now. Tankies exist mainly online and their numbers are bolstered by foreign troll farms and sock accounts trying to create division. So sorry I don’t want to buy into that outrage of people who scarcely exist.
You aren’t engaging in the discussion.
You are derailing it.
Smells of Putin Propaganda because Russia gets rightfully criticised.
Putin proganda props up tankies talking points to foster division and outrage, outrage like this meme. What does russia have to gain from my stance of ignore tankies because they only exist online while zionists sre influencing actual policy, war and death? You cant just call everything you dont like russian propaganda, but thats about as lazy as most response ive been getting.
You’re right, it’s engagement at the level of an “all lives matter” chud. I didn’t realize that was the level of thought you were intentionally going for. Congrats I guess?
Again. Zionists are killing people right now. Tankies are the most minor of minorities. If you think saying Zionists are worse than Tankies is like saying all lives matter you’re one of the kids Bush left behind, so congrats I guess.
It would have been more convincing had Ukraine not spent 2014-2022 pounding cities in the eastern Donbass.
The fact OP and all the liberals in this thread ignore on purpose.
Ignore Ukraine fighting Russians who invaded their country? I thought that was the point?
Are you trying to stand by the bald faced lie that ‘its just locals who disagree’ over booting out the extremely corrupt Yanukovych? Just locals with Russian military tech shooting down MH17.
I’m sure the oil and gas discoveries prior to the 2014 invasion had nothing to do with it.
What really blows my mind is the tankies ignoring Ukraine trying to nationalize the energy sector ahead of Russia’s invasion.
Ignore Ukraine fighting Russians who invaded their country
The fact the nazis were shelling civilians in the Donbas.
Yeah they overthrew the democratically elected leader, so it’s not a democracy.
It’s not as simple as Russia bad guy invaded good guy for no reason.
The democratically elected puppet of Russian oil oligarchs. He had loaves of gold hidden in his mansion.
Don’t try to strawman me with the bad guy no reason BS. I stated before and I will say it again. It’s oil and gas. That’s the reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo6w5R6Uo8Y&t=0
Russia invaded in 2014 because they didn’t want their oil and gas market to be undermined by Ukraine.
The democratically elected leader by the Ukrainian people. You have any evidence of election fraud or are your little feeling just hurt?
Russia invaded in 2014 because they didn’t want their oil and gas market to be undermined by Ukraine.
False. Russia invaded for national security interests. We would do the same if a foreign nation was training and arming Nazis on our border.
You don’t negotiate with a burglar who breaks in and steals your shit. You shoot them between the eyes.
Anyone who calls for a compromise is either Russian or a complete fucking idiot.
You shoot people in the face for stealing? Sheesh.
They valued stuff more than their lives yes. I’m not taking the chance they decide to come back or get violent.
Actually YOU valued stuff more than THEIR lives. So close.
truly spoken by someone who has never actually had to deal with anything close to this in reality.
you hear glass break and you what, help them fill up the van and make them a sandwich, because they need it more than you and are of no threat?
Yes. Those are your two options. You’re a genius! You hear glass break, you start blasting!!
Most American-ass shit ever.
