• YodaDaCoda@aussie.zone
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    5 months ago

    Autumn’s already here. Marking stuff by seasons is disgustingly self-centred for an international company.

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        5 months ago

        Well in that case it cannot replace SMS entirely until it’s completely opened up so that absolutely anybody can use it. Either that or the more terrible alternative is that they are going to not open it up so that other apps can use it and literally kill every other SMS messenger in existence. Except for Google Messages and whatever Samsung uses

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          5 months ago

          I’d rather they didn’t open it… It’s crap anyway, and I refuse to use it for those people who won’t move away from SMS.

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            5 months ago

            If they successfully kill SMS though enough people will stop using SMS that there’s a very high chance the carriers won’t support it any longer either. And that means you would not be able to send or receive text messages on an Android phone without Google messages.

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      5 months ago

      From what I understand RCS isn’t controlled by Google, Google merely operates a RCS instance in a federated ecosystem.

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        5 months ago

        RCS the oficial standard is open yes. But Goggle’s implementation has added proprietary bits and changes that aren’t in the spec. Even if they opened their servers nobody could use them anyway.

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          5 months ago

          But Goggle’s implementation has added proprietary bits and changes that aren’t in the spec.

          They added encryption based on Signal, so hardly proprietary. Encryption apparently is being incorporated into an upcoming revision of the RCS spec, no word on the algorithm to be used, though.

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        5 months ago

        That is correct. However, Google does control Android and has not added the ability for other applications to interact with RCS, other than Google Messages and the Samsung messenger.

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          5 months ago

          Google does control Android and has not added the ability for other applications to interact with Google’s RCS instance RCS, other than Google Messages and the Samsung messenger, whereas all those joyn branded messengers that exist since a decade need to access their own servers.

          FIFY according to the best of my knowledge.

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            5 months ago

            Ah, okay then. As long as anybody can set up an RCS instance, then and communicate with the people on the Google servers, then that’s fine. But if for example, fossify cant setup an RCS instance there would be no need for fossify sms messenger to exist.

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      5 months ago

      I think the holdup is that previously SMS was paid for through your carrier, so Google can let any app use it and no one loses money. Now the main RCS instance is hosted by Google, and I guess Google doesn’t want other apps freeloading on their servers since you’re not paying for RCS directly like you are paying your carrier. It really sucks and I hope it gets resolved soon, especially with Apple joining in. We also need a good open source RCS server and client.