• echo64@lemmy.world
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    From the outside looking in, I’m sorry but the opposite is evident. How fast older Americans are rushing to setup their own firewall, making one thing illegal in America is crazy.

    We’re heading towards a world where just like China blocks Facebook, America has its own firewall to block tiktok. Two sides of the same coin.

    Tiktok was the one platform that young Americans were able to organize politically, and the older Americans are going against everything America is supposed to stand for to stop that happening.

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      China blocks a lot, lot more than just Facebook, so to try and conflate the two is disingenuous at best and trolling at worst. I’m also very skeptical of this idea that TikTok is the only platform where organization can occur. Maybe this pushes them to the Fediverse, or to more established methods like Telegram, but it’s not going to be this great silencing of young voices.

      I’d also like to point out that many of the media sources that are picking up on this as a horrible ban are owned by people who like to sow division like Murdoch, or are affiliated with ByteDance. Checking for unbiased sources is pretty big on a topic like this, and I would absolutely ignore anything posted on TikTok at a minimum.

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        We are heading towards a world where Americans are prevented from accessing a social media that the rest of the world can access. This is undeniable. It’s disingenuous to suggest that this is not like the Chinese ban on foreign social media’s.

        It’s worrying that people such as yourself are willing to take on the same playbook as a government you supposedly hate.

        It’s worth noting I am not American, I will not be affected by this ban. I just see America slipping into a bad place. You aren’t immune to propaganda, and you aren’t questioning this stuff enough. Next time, it’ll be for something you don’t guttrally hate, and no one will be supporting you then.

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      There are plenty of platforms where kids can do that. Tik tok just gor popular because of how add short and quick it is to doom scroll.

      But the app has already proven itself to be extremely invasive in how much data it collects and stores. It was even collecting Mac addresses for quite a while, finding a loophole around Apple and googles prevention of it.

      Then it also obtains precise GPS data, monitors all inputs and screen interactions, has been keeping auto generated logs of everything said in the videos, and automatically id’s objects it can recognize in your background. Then it’s also free to covertly shape and push videos it wants people to see and there’s no accountability for it outside of China. Youtube tried doing something like that at some point and they got in trouble for it and were forced to stop. The US can’t do that with China.

      Make no mistake, either. We’re in something of a cold war with China and Russia, N Korea, and a few other countries. The countries have low key been trying to destabilize our country and others for the past 20 years or better. It’s not like there wouldn’t be a tik tok clone that wouldn’t pop up and take over use. Heck. Look at the site you’re on now. Everyone used to be on Digg. Then they moved to Reddit because Digg got too greedy. Now people are starting to move over to places like Lemmy because reddit has started doing the same as Digg. Everyone also moved from MySpace to Facebook. They’ll always be a similar competitor you can go to.

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      Tiktok was the one platform that young Americans were able to organize politically

      True or not, this statement is hilarious. If the 10-second video trend platform getting blocked ruins your political machinations, they weren’t particularly stable to begin with.