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    Any of you super coders in here know of a way to download the app ourselves and inject significant amounts of false data into it?

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    I hope they come to my door. I’ll tell them all the stuff that is taught in Seminary that they don’t teach the parishioners.

    That being said, this is totally fucked up. Hopefully someone that is affected can sue them into oblivion.

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    These lunatics have a disturbing amount of control in the US government.

    Laughing at them might be fun, and I was doing it until recently, but they’re not joking. The worse our climate disasters become – and they will very soon – the more scared people will become, and the more these groups will take advantage of that fear. We’ll see more climate refugees, more desperation, and more fear. These groups prey on fear, and they’ll amplify it on purpose.

    True fascism thrives on fear, which is why these people amplify it like they do. When climate disasters accelerate, these groups will harness the social upheaval to take control. I don’t know what we can do to stop it, but we should all be thinking about and sharing ways to head it off, because they’ve got plans in place already.

    I know I sound paranoid, but I’ve been watching them and these aren’t my ideas, but theirs. They talk about this a lot, and if we aren’t prepared, their plans could actually work. I don’t want to live in the fascist future they’re planning. If we don’t combat it, we’ll be living in the Handmaid’s Tale before most of us realise.

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    When people ring your bell to annoy you about religion, reply by trying to converting them into atheism or another religion (satanism included)

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      I do that all the time. I don’t care if you’re a christian, Muslim, Jehovah’s witness or whatever else, if you come to my house uninvited to tell me why I should follow any religion, be ready for a heated debate on why that’s not your place, I dont care what your leaders have made you believe. Its one thing to talk about Christ to tell anyone about Him, and then drop it and move on to a civil interaction, its an entirely different thing to splat your believes on people’s faces and telling people they will go to hell if they don’tdo what you tell them. We have friends of all religions and lack of religion, and we have never attempted to change them. They know what we believe in, we know what they believe in, and none of that makes any difference. I’m glad I dont live in the US, nothing more disgusting than mixing faith with politics.

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      I just let my dog help me answer the door.

      He’s a big boy and very talkative. The proselytize can’t get a word in…

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      Maybe not the best idea. According to the article, using this app they can leave notes about you for other members to see. Talking about satanism would probably flag you for even more harassment.

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        Hmm I would not know that they are using an app. Anyway I don’t think we should make any concessions or be scared of those people and adapt to them.

        Noone has the right of making you swallow their religious views.

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    This is a yikes, they’re doing the Westboro Church tactics without wanting the money, just to harass.

    The Mapping Center for Evangelism and Church Growth’s founder and president Chris Cooper suggests using the app to conduct neighborly activities such as putting on a barbecue for potential converts, but scattered throughout the app’s training and promotional videos are suggestions to undertake the controversial practice of “prayerwalking.” An idea becoming increasingly popular among Christian supremacist groups, prayerwalking involves believers flooding so-called “un-Christian” territories in order to combat “demonic strongholds.” In practice, it varies from blessing new neighbors to gathering groups to pray in front of everything from mosques to drag bars in service of “spiritual warfare.”

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    As a Christian: this is absolutely despicable. Jesus taught us to love our neighbors, and a huge part of loving someone is to respect their boundaries.

    So screw this app and the people that built it. If you want to invite your neighbors to learn about Jesus:

    1. Set a good example
    2. Get to know them
    3. Invite only when it’s relevant (i.e. to a kid’s baptism or whatever)

    If they want to learn about Jesus, they’ll ask.

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      As an ex-christian, the most un-christlike behavior is often espoused by Christians.

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        As the saying goes: one bad apple spoils the barrel.

        I think most Christians are fine, at least the Christians who understand and try to follow Christ’s teachings, it’s just the few “Christian influencers” or whatever that are a pox on society. I try to distance myself from them as much as possible, and encourage the rest to be better examples.

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          Well, militants are always annoying, be they Christian, lefties, Righties, vegans, meat eaters or whatever

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            It’s because they craft their entire identity around that particular thing. It does not matter what the belief or how illogical the belief, if you question it, or are simply not prepared to go along with it, they get really angry and incoherent.

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          I somewhat agree with you. The problem is that all those bad apples are the loudest of the bunch, which is why people, understandably, try to avoid all Christians like the plague. I did too for MANY years, until I was the target of a miracle myself. But that didn’t change my behavior towards people, I still treat EVERYONE with respect, and as kindly as I am able to (sorry, still human, so not always possible, lol).

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            The same is true with Muslims as well. A lot of people in the west dislike Muslims generally because of the relatively small percentage of extremists, yet the Muslims I work with are fantastic people. My coworker (Christian, I believe) married an Iranian woman (Muslim), and said the people in Iran are generally quite awesome, it’s just the minority who is in power that causes the problems.

            In general, most people are pretty chill, regardless of religion (or lack thereof). So please, if you feel like a stereotype is accurate, go out and meet people from that demographic in real life (not on SM), and you’ll likely realize most people are good. It doesn’t really matter what the demographic and stereotype are, most people don’t fit it.

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              I have a bunch of friends, coworkers, employees and business associates that are Muslim. Some live in my country, some in the US, Egypt, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Irak, all over the place, and all of them, without exception, are amazing people, super humble, can take jokes, even about religion, and are incredibly respectful of everyone else regardless of any perceived difference. My family and I went to the New York side of the Niagar Falls for New Year of 2019, where we know absolutely nobody. When we got to the AirBNB late at night, my wife and I went out to buy some water, some food for breakfast the next day, and everything was closed. We found a small store that was open and when we walked in we were greeted by this guy originally from Iran, Muslim. We started talking like we were friends for years. Before he left he offered to make us dinner the following night. I’m Dominican, and I have yet to meet someone as nice and outgoing as this guy and his family. We met almost every day for the 2 weeks we spent there, and I am grateful that I met them. We had an amazing time. I’m sure there are some nasty people out there, just like there’s a bunch of nasty people everywhere and from all walks of life. Bottom line is that we can’t tell who is who just by race, religion, nationality or any of those things. Take the time to know the person, more times than not, you’ll be grateful you did. I’m sorry, I’m feeling really hyped with this thread. You guys have restored some of my lost faith in humanity. Thank you very much.

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      At the very least they should target people who consider themselves Christian but have stopped going to Church for one reason or another.

      Although to be fair many of the more “dedicated” Churches function more like a cult

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        Good Christians leave because they realize who are in power and what corrupt shit have been going on

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        If I were the devil and this world was mine to see Well, I’d witness all the atrocities and it’d probably frighten me So I’d run back home with a story to tell I’d tell all my demon friends that I always preferred Hell — Colby Acuff

        One of the existential terrors of deconstruction is realizing the human species is plenty capable of evil and atrocity, that no demons are needed

        Then when we’ve seen the absolute worst humans could imagine, Sir David Attenborough comes along holding Nature’s beer.

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          Every concept of hell and the details on what earns you a spot there I have always translated to “hell on earth.”

          As in: the things someone would do to earn them a spot in hell creates hell on earth. There is no hell other than the hell people create for us here.

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      It’s projection every time with conservatives. They hate you because they think you’re as shitty as they are.

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      There was a Masto post recently where someone’s conservative mother told her that she knows being gay is a choice, because she feel attraction to girls, but she chooses not to act on it, and that’s the responsible Christian thing to do or w/e.

      It legit made me all of a sudden realize why there’s so much overlap between the “we have to punish the gays and make it illegal” and “I secretly go to male prostitutes all the time” in Republican circles. It just all of a sudden harmonized and clicked into place and made perfect sense.

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        Many that think being gay is a choice, are in fact bisexual themselves. So for them it’s a choice on whether or not to act on it. And they project that everyone else is the same.

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          And even then it’s not really a choice, since you can’t really choose to stop having feelings. I guess that for bi people it’s easier to pretend, but where there’s love, there’s love.

          It’s like, being a hetero dude and vlbeing forced to go with a girl when there’s another one you love. It’s hard in any case.

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            People tend to project themselves on other people. We all do it, and it can be shocking to find how different people actually are from each other. I’ve heard all my life from certain Christians that people who are atheist have no moral compass and there’s nothing stopping them from killing and raping people. Which I find revealing, because they are saying their beliefs are the only thing stopping them from doing those things. I have never once wanted to rape or kill anyone, maybe that’s why it’s easy for me to not believe in god.

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              That about the moral compass, and telling you that you cannot be happy without Jesus in your life are crocks of manure I know plenty of non-christians that live extremely happy and are much Kore decent than most of the Christians I know, including myself. In the same subject, I know plenty of Christians whose demeanor wouldbhave satanists praying for them since they could be worse people. And religions? Biggest issue in the world, bar none. Having faith is one thing, I have faith. I do NOT follow religion. Religions are full of dogmasbthat you are supposed to follow without question. Religion is what has Gaza busted the way it is.

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    I feel like this information is going to get sold to GOT–sorry, ‘voter suppression’ efforts and general databrokers.

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    JFC, I installed the app and added “my address” and immediately was given a list of names and addresses to “pray for”.

    How am I supposed to pray for so many people!? What am I, an ATM?! Gelatians 4:20:69 had nothing to do with Gelato!1! This is getting 1 star and reported on the app store.

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      Dude, that’s beyond creepy. I know of 1 christian that will certainly never install that thing. Not that I can right now, since I have absolutely no Google or Apple store at my disposal. #degoogled all the way.

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    I dare one of them to show up to my front door. They are going to be in for a fucked up conversation that will make them second guess their life choices.

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      One stopped by my house last week. I told them this is an atheist household and the bible is a fictional story book, no offense. I quite enjoyed the face they made.

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        In my younger days told a Jehova’s Witness that Jesus was my favorite fictional character because he had the coolest superpowers. They went from overjoyed that I was engaging with them to Charlie Brown sad walking away in the space of a sentence.

        These days I’d probably be more rude but less offensive.

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        My favorite interaction was on a college campus. They had set up a table and were telling every passerby “Jesus loves you!” So I cheerfully returned “and Allah loves you!”

        I will forever cherish the physical recoil and look of revulsion that crossed their faces. I’m an atheist, for context

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          Funny stuff religions are. The Allah of the Muslims and the Yaweh of Israel is the same God. The split comes from the segregation of the people back then. Which just confirms my point. None of them investigate, and just follow whatever their “leaders” say without ever thinking to question anything.“Go house by house and say THIS. Do not deviate from the script.” They’re like cattle, seriously.