• Krafty Kactus@sopuli.xyz
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    9 months ago

    Why shouldn’t you bring your phone?

    Edit for y’all who thought I don’t know what cell triangulation and gps tracking are: If you’re involved in protesting to the extent that you might be actively tracked, you should have the proper precautions in place on your phone that make it untraceable even when you’re carrying it with you.

    Edit 2: “Proper precautions” includes using GrapheneOS with 2 SIMs. Only use one of those SIMs at protests and make sure to never use them at the same time. If the government is tracking you past that point, why do you even have a phone in the first place?

  • N_Crow@leminal.space
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    9 months ago

    I’m not american. Why not bring your phone? Around here as long as you have a legion of people pointing cameras at cops they’ll not outright beat you senseless since it’ll be impossible to lie about some bullshit justification about how you did something first.

    • kennismigrant@feddit.nl
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      9 months ago

      Why not bring your phone?

      Your SIM/IMEI are tied to your ID. The police can visit you at home later. Details depend on the country.

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          Don’t trust the surveillance device to turn off because you ask nicely. Leaving it at home helps sell the idea that you weren’t at the protest you were at.

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              If you have an iPhone you can go ahead and try Flight Mode right now. You’ll see that it disconnects from WiFi and disables cellular. NFC, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi stay powered on, Bluetooth stays active. Yes, latest iOS has Bluetooth tracking protection on by default (varies by country, illegal in some), but it is not completely safe. I’m not sure about NFC and Wi-Fi. If you power the phone off it is unlikely to turn off the radios - they are needed for “find my iPhone” and similar features on Google and Samsung Galaxy phones.

              Overall you can’t be confident that your phone does not reveal your location and identity to “law enforcement”, especially in places where police is well equipped to track you.

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              9 months ago

              I’m pretty sure the SIM still connects to cell towers even if you have mobile data deactivated

              Edit: on most phones it prevents the connection but there are still other ways to track like GPS

  • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Also don’t wear any clothing you bought from a unique Etsy store (or any store you physically visited and paid with a card).

    The clothes you wear to the protest should also be bought from a thrift store that you visited without your cellphone and paid for the clothing in cash.

    Otherwise, yes, your clothing purchases are tracked, and the young lady who torched a cop car during the George Floyd protests was literally found by the FBI searching Etsy purchase records for people who had bought that shirt.

    https://www.inquirer.com/news/lore-blumenthal-philly-protests-george-floyd-sentencing-20220728.html

    Other options are facial recognition defeating clothing like this:

    https://www.dezeen.com/2023/02/07/cap_able-facial-recognition-blocking-clothing/

    Or this:

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2496686/anti-cctv-reflectacle-glasses-will-let-criminals-evade-the-law-and-activists-dodge-the-surveillance-state/


    EDIT:

    But neither of those help when we’re dealing with stuff like Gait Analysis.

    For help with that, we must turn to the Ministry…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2ViNJFZC8

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      Cory Doctorow has a solution: put some pebbles in your shoes, that will change the way you walk right away.

  • randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
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    9 months ago

    Gee, people in the US need to be this cautious when protesting? Where I live it’s totally fine to just casually show up at protests, take selfies, talk to people and whatnot.

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      No…we don’t. This I’m assuming is showing someone who’s idea of protesting is burning cars and businesses down.

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        Sounds like someone doesn’t know (or care) what can happen to protestors that are protesting the “wrong things”… Like oil and gas pipelines, for example, or training centers for heightened police militarization. Or foreign policy, even, that one has been happening for generations already.

        Lol if only they would protest the right way, they wouldn’t have to worry about anything, right?

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        Or holding…checks notes…

        Wrench

        Cordless drill

        Water-hose nozzle

        Flashlight

        Shower rod

        Cane

        Broomstick

        Hairbrush

        Sunglasses

        Bottle of cologne

        Underwear

        Tinfoil

        Bottle of beer

        Pill bottle

        E-cigarette

        Cell phone

        Wallet

        iPod

        Wii remote

        Toy truck

        Sandwich

        Bible

        Hands

        …can we add Acorn to the list? I think Acorn can go on there now, also.

  • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    Gen-X here. Gen-Z answers a question I had as a teen. “What the hell children will the extreme sports, tech-centric, video gaming, gangsta rap, grunge, rage against the machine, angst filled ‘slacker’ generation raise?”