Former President Donald Trump on Saturday stood by his 2019 statement that writer E. Jean Carroll made a “totally false accusation” against him, despite similar claims resulting in him losing a defamation case in January.

Campaigning at a rally in Rome, Georgia, Trump referenced the $91.6 million bond he posted on March 8, three days before his deadline to pay $83.3 million in damages to Carroll for defaming her in statements he made as president after denying her accusation that he’d raped her in a department store dressing room in the 1990s.

Carroll first came forward in 2019 with sexual assault claims against Trump before another civil trial in May 2023, where a New York jury found that the former president sexually abused Carroll but didn’t rape her.

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    If I was his lawyer I may try arguing his mental state prevents him from understanding the words he says. I’m not a lawyer, but that’s the only explanation I can think of as to why he keeps this up. There’s a lot to say about his base, but honestly they can ignore things as they do with the rulings. He’s got plenty of other people he can go after, plenty of hate he could spend time on. He just keeps sticking his hand in this piranha bowel. He’s an idiot.

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    I wonder if this is a legal strategy so he keeps getting sued in the hopes of finding a judge\jury that finds in his favor, then he can challenge the other cases based on the last case?

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      The first case was the finding of fact that he did, in fact, sexually assult E. Jean Carroll.

      In order for that finding of fact to be overturned, an appeals court would need to rule on that for that first case. Appeals courts overturning a finding of fact is incredibly rare. I believe that, because that fact has been found, the burden of proof is now on the appellant (Trump) to prove that the finding was incorrect.

      The additional defamation cases rely on the finding of fact, and Trump’s big fat mouth. Unless and until that fact is overturned (Narrator: It won’t be.), Trump will lose every one of them. Even if he doesn’t, that wouldn’t change anything about the remaining cases where he was found to be defamatory.

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        Defamation requires that a reasonable person would believe the claims he is making. At some point, it will be completely unreasonable for anyone to believe anything he says, at which point he can never defame anyone ever again.

        I thought we were there when he ran against Hillary…

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          Nope. It doesn’t work like that. You can’t just lie so much that you can say whatever you want because no one will believe you. Wtf lol

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            It does, actually.

            For example, if I were to tell everyone in this community that Randomgal is a pedophile, that would constitute defamation. It is a false assertion presented as fact, and a reasonable person could believe it to be true. Randomgal’s reputation would be damaged by such a statement.

            If I tell everyone that Randomgal fucks three headed aliens from the planet Morgonne XII, that does not constitute defamation, because no reasonable person would consider that to be a true statement. Randomgal’s reputation is not damaged by such a statement.

            Some “reasonable person” has to believe Trump’s claims for those claims to constitute defamation.

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          Defamation requires that a reasonable person would believe the claims he is making

          Ke stoll has crowds paying to hear him speak, while they wear hats and t-shirts with his name on them.

          Of course there is the whole issue of determining if any of them can legally be considered “reasonable persons”…

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    The irony of the GOP going bankrupt because they have to donate all their money to women’s charities after selling the party out to this buffoon is so think I could choke on it.

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    The year is 2065. E. Jean Carroll is the richest human alive. She rules a business empire that stretches across the globe and even to Mars. This empire does not charge for services, sell products or even take investor funding.

    Its only source of revenue is suing the immortal cyborg that is Donald Trump, who even after 40 years of taking Ls is still pathologically unable to keep his fucking mouth shut.

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        Let’s just go to absurdity here: 1 trillion dollars.

        I mean, why not, right? He can’t pay what he already owes. Might as well

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    He’ll keep defaming her because he knows it doesn’t cost him a penny. He knows that he has his legions of mugs and idiots who will keep giving up their social security checks for him.

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    The lack of empathy with Trump supporters should be studied. Because I would love to know what drives them to this man so much. He has the strongest collective of meat riders in human history.

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        I remember reading at the start of Covid in the US, when the government was saying “masks are dumb”, but local churches were going “masks save lives”, the churches were surprised at how much pushback they were getting.

        Turns out raising someone from a young age to believe without questioning, and look up to one person as their only source of truth, and ignore compelling scientific evidence, is pretty hard conditioning to break.

        Shockedpikachuface.jpg, #leopardsatemyface, etc.

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          Asbestos is more cancer-causing while lead does more of the developmental delay thing.

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          Asbestos, while it has negative health implications, does not have a mind-altering component like lead poisoning.

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          Doesn’t asbestos just give you mega asthma and giga cancer and not turn you into a soulless piece of shit?

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              And water, when it’s in shingle or siding form. Wow this is a miraculous material, we ought to start using it for everything!

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              That’s what causes the aforementioned giga cancer.

              Eighties and nineties peeps will remember:

              Do you or someone you know have mesothelioma?!

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      I agree, but I think it’s more than that. Even if you think Trump is telling the truth and all of this is a made up lie (even though there are other signs like cheating on his wife to sleep with porn stars and being caught on a mic saying he just grabs women by the pussy), IT’S EXTREMELY DUMB for him to keep talking about it!

      Trump should be renamed to Xenu.

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      It’s called fanaticism, which is when people stop liking someone because of their actions/oratory and start liking the actions/oratory because they came from the person.

      Americans have been conditioned such that they’re fallible to this bullshit.

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        Did we forget the Arabs, Swedes, Japanese, Russians, Canadians, Mexicans, need I go on?

        Human nature is a human nature thing, not an American thing.

        Sincerely,

        Someone not a fan of useful idiots pushing needless division.

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          Well, firstly, I didn’t say other people haven’t been brainwashed, just that americans had. Secondly, the american brand is very strong. Not a ton of countries would’ve allowed a specimin like trump to get anywhere near high office, let alone elected them president, all while crowing to all and sundry about what a utopia the usa is and how much better they are than everyone else!

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      They all wish they could be him. These are people who would act JUST LIKE TRUMP if they could get away with it. They aren’t into him because of the policy, they are into him because they are jealous.

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      America is full of assholes. Trump is their King. King of the assholes and hero to the stupid.

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    Supposed adults are no longer content to claim they were “traumatized” by hearing words they found objectionable. We have to regress even further, by claiming that we were “sexually abused”, even when we were 30something years of age at the time of the incident

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      Is your position that sexual abuse cant occur to an adult, that when it occurs it can and should be laughed off (what other physical abuses should be treated the same) or a third position entirely?

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        In the not too distant past, when we were over tye age of 18 and got felt up by someone we didn’t fancy, we saw this as an obnoxious experience, and didn’t dwell on it, much less pretend to be “traumatized”. Today, entirely too many of us are pretending to be more fragile than fine china

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          Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t you say that meekly taking any abuse, violence, assault, harassment etc without standing up to the perpetrators would be the weak thing to do? Today we ain’t taking shit from people who think they can exert power over us and the people who used to get away with it don’t seem to like that much.

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            E. Jean Carrol didn’t have to take shit from Trump back when this incident allegedly happened either. Last anyone heard, girl wasn’t trying on a straight jacket in that dressing room, and could’ve decked him. Or, if this wasn’t practical, headbutted, kicked, or bitten him

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          Trump literally put his fingers inside her in a dressing room according to the deposition. But sure. Let Trump put his fingers inside you bruv, I’m sure it won’t be traumatizing.