• dragontamer@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Hmm, if only his wife was in charge of safety regulations of the USA and could have enacted stronger safety measures against shitty Tesla UI issues.

    Who the fuck decides that a touchscreen is a good control for drive vs reverse?

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      8 months ago

      I just had to Google something…

      You shift a Tesla with a fucking touchscreen? Jesus Christ have we all lost our minds?

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        8 months ago

        I had to rent one a year ago as it was the only car available when I flew out of state. The windshield wipers and headlights are also activated on the touchscreen. But they’re not all on the same screen at once, you have to navigate through several menus to find each one.

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        8 months ago

        Cost cutting. Easier to just stick a touch screen in and run the whole UI through software. Look at how much they cheaped out on the steering wheel.

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      8 months ago

      If you’re even remotely in control of your senses, there’s not really any chance of getting it wrong. At least not now than with any other control scheme. This sort of thing doesn’t happen to sober people.

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        8 months ago

        Bad UX is bad UX. Regardless of how drunk, high, thick, distracted, restricted, whatever, a person is, any UI that is 1% more awkward, counterintuitive or demanding than is needs to be is that much more awkward, counterintuitive or demanding for everybody that uses it. And when the user is also trying to drive a fucking car that becomes dangerous.

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        8 months ago

        Mitch McConnell’s billionaire sister-in-law Angela Chao begs to differ.

        Ironically, your yourself laid out why you’re wrong. Touchscreens remove one of your senses… Touch. Most people can drive without stop looking at the road with some muscle memory and quick touch feeling. Not do easy on a touch screen which, as Angela Chao will confirm, do not like at all to have water on them when used (ghost touches and such)

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        Sober people don’t accidentally back up too far when making a 3 point turn? Your foot has never slipped or pressed the wrong pedal? Youve never turned the wheel too far? Never shifted into the wrong gear? You’re either a perfect specimen or completely full of shit

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          I have made all of those mistakes but I was always attentive (and sober) enough to not cause an accident.

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        8 months ago

        If you’re even remotely in control of your senses,

        Modern Car UI had evolved to all be the same because in a panic or even causal driving, it’s safer to have manual or automatic shift patterns to all be the same and the clutch/break/gas pedals all in the same order. I won’t touch something with a knob dial shifter. I shouldn’t have to take my eyes off the road to shift gears or just from forward to reverse.

        edited for clarity.

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          * confused manual driver sounds *

          Why are you looking at the shifter when using it? Don’t you know it’s shy?

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        8 months ago

        At least not more than with any other control scheme.

        Lol no… I drive a manual transmission. I can tell you with my eyes closed what gear I’m in and I can change it to any other gear without opening my eyes.

        Touch screens for controlling important functions of a car are a stupid idea.

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          Well, I can tell you with my eyes closed whether my car goes forward or backward. Which is all I need to know. There’s really zero potential for confusion here.

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    8 months ago

    I am categorically unmoved by the deaths of billionaires. They could all go, and the world would be a meaningfully better place for everyone left.

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      If one “earns” $1m per year, it would take 1000 years to earn $1b.

      If one earns $1m per month it’d take about 80 years.

      If one earned $1b per year then it’d still take 114 years to reach the top ten billionaires list.

      That amount of wealth is incomprehensible.

  • EndOfLine@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    Could she not have opened the door or rolled down the window? The article made sure we knew that she went to Harvard and described the event she was attending, but no mention of why she was unable to exit the vehicle. Did she not know how to swim? Was their some obstruction? Did something malfunction? Was she so used to having other people do things for her that it just never occurred to her to do anything for herself?

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      8 months ago

      Wasn’t there controversy about the Tesla shutting down when submerged and how you couldn’t open the windows or unlock the doors because they hadn’t built in emergency safety releases? Or was that a different earlier model that has been fixed by now?

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        See, now that is the type of information that would have been useful in the article. I don’t care that the property “included horse stables, a swimming pool and a 10-bedroom guesthouse”. I care how somebody got trapped in their car.

        Thanks for sharing.

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          I was wondering myself why her net worth is an important part of the story. Why do we need to know her husband’s net worth in a story about her dying in a pond?

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            My recollection of the controversy was that there weren’t mechanical emergency window or door releases for the early models of Teslas, which became a huge safety concern especially with fires and submersion due to the battery either dying or being cut off. Had that changed, and/or is this specific model different?

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        And this is why you carry a window breaker in your car if you live anywhere this might potentially happen. Equalizing pressure by breaking the shit out of your window (preferably the windshield so you have a larger area of escape) is not IDEAL, but it’ll do in a pinch.

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          Do not try to go through Front the windshield, it’s super specialized layered glass with a thick plastic center.

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      It’s pretty much impossible to open a car door underwater. You’d need superhuman strength.

      As to why the windows didn’t roll down, I can only speculate.

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        It’s why us OGs learned how to crack auto glass with a spark plug stashed in the glove compartment. Just, don’t tell any billionaires. 🤓

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          The windows here are designed to be indestructible though. I have no idea if they would actually withstand that, but they are not designed to break like regular car windows.

          I think that all cars should be required to have an easily accessible and identifiable emergency escape tool though. One that can cut your seat belt and break the glass. I don’t know why that hasn’t been mandated, though we should make an exception if your networth is high enough.

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        Depends. You have to wait for the pressure to equalize to open the door. So once the car is filled up fully will you be able to open it. The problem is if you drove a car into a body of water, you might be panicking and not thinking through your actions

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          Not just that, the car starts turning upside down and it’s completely dark with no air.

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              My reference is a video on Mythbusters so it should apply to most ICE cars. One thing to note is that even if you’re in an EV and the weight is at the bottom, the battery, motors are not perfectly 50/50 front/back or even 50/50 left and right. Also, its not like the car was gently entered the water. Any pitch or roll while entering the water will dramatically alter your car’s position. Another factor is the water current.

              Let’s all agree that we all need a window breaking device inside our cars.

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    8 months ago

    Careful, suggesting Tesla’s don’t make for good submersibles might get you called a pedo

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    You know, we all think of billionaires as these immoral monsters hoarding wealth that could help so many people in so many ways but they don’t. But sometimes you read a story about how human they are. The fear she must have had stuck in there knowing the end was coming and being completely helpless to stop it… I hope it happens to the rest of them as well.

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      8 months ago

      love seeing holier-than-thou self-righteous scum get brought down to earth and put six feet under it.

      fuck billionaires.

      they’re normal people - but they ACT like gods, and they need a hard fucking reminder.

    • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.ee
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      Billionaires are the best reason to hope hell is real. I’ll take my eternity watching their faces as they go “But…but I followed the prosperity gospel to the letter” and Jesus says “Yeah, that one isn’t mine.”