Anyone got the “tankies and the burden of being right all the time” meme on hand?
Socialism with Cassandra characteristics
"For of all sad words of tongue or pen, The saddest are these: ‘Tankies right again!’ "
Hahahaha now biden is interested on "talks’ about the border? F that guy… 4 years of open border and now he wants to talk about it because the election is coming. Screw him…
You don’t understand biden’s border policy at all.
He’s increased border security for his entire term and agreed to further than the most severe border closures conservatives asked for, only to have the conservatives turn tail, proving them to be bad faith negotiators.
Are you actually blaming the conservatives for the current amount of illegal immigration right now?
Absolutely. Democrats have already tried to make several deals with the covidiots and they have refused. They don’t want a deal, they just hate brown people and want to screw over the left. Nothing at all new there.
Since they reneged on a deal two months ago to secure the border?
Yes. Obviously.
If two parties(Democrats and Republicans) agree to secure the border and then one party (the Republicans) reneges on the agreed proposal and runs away so that the deal falls through, it is that party’s(the Republicans) fault that the deal has fallen through.
I think you are referring to the bill with aid to Ukraine, Isreal and Tawaiin, corret? If so, that bill was terrible and literally did the opposite of secure the border.
Why do they need a bill to secure the border when they already have the ability to do it?
Passing bipartisan legislation is how things should legally and transparently be done in the US democratic system.
A better question is; why are conservatives clutching their pearls over a non-critical issue like border security and then fleeing once someone agrees to provide funding and measures for securing the border?
Outside of passing a bill with billions of military aid for proxy wars in foreign countries, it was still a shitty bill. I am fine with using the system correctly, but why not stop the bleeding first and actually prosecute the law?
Are you aware of what it even did? It literally just codified that 5000 people per day can illegally enter the country by any means, and then after that they have to go through the port of entry, and if I am remembering correctly it doesnt even start taking place till the end of the year. And then it made it so that all the court hearings adjudicating it had to take place in DC. No person should have accepted that bill even if it didnt shove military aid to kill people around the world.
It is irrational but consistent that conservatives took getting what they wished for as a terrifying cautionary example of…getting what they wished for.
Border security is a non-critical earmark that baby-brained conservatives whined for more action on and then cowered from once their plaintive cries were answered.
Ukraine should get as much aid as they want. Any other conclusion is nuts. Or selfish. Or cowardly. Or short-sighted.
What border policy?
Open border? I think you must be confused.
open borders is when you keep all of Trump’s policies, deport more people than him, build his wall, and allow fascist Republican governors to build razor wire on the border and kidnap people
these people are such rubes
Hahaha nope, go down south boy 🐸👌🐸
If you say so, have a good day fine sir.
More like deranged and/or a victim of disinformation. The US-Mexican border is one of the most aggressively controlled borders between countries that aren’t at war in the entire world.
It’s easier and less expensive (before interest and other predatory student loan fees, at least) to get into an Ivy League university as an American than it is to legally enter the US as a Mexican.
As for undocumented immigrants, most of those are people from Europe and Canada who entered legally and then overstayed their visas.
The amount of people crossing the Mexican border illegally is absolutely miniscule in comparison, but Mexicans and other people from Central and South America tend to have more melanin than Europeans and Canadians, which means racist Republicans fear and loathe them.
Oh no I definitely understand what’s happening but I just don’t think I will change their opinion in any meaningful way.
research shows that people don’t change their opinions in the face of facts because political ideology is a fundamentally emotional thing. It’s a shame that tribalism is so deeply ingrained in humanity.
Yeah, it’s tragic how effective propaganda can be, especially when repeated over and over as fact by people you trust, like is the case with Faux News and the like and the open borders lie
These comments remind me that the fediverse is just a small version of reddits echo camber.
Trump: There’s no “me” in “work together.”
Biden might as well try to convince a rock that it can jump if it tries really hard.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
In his remarks, Trump said the death of Riley, 22, a graduate nursing student who was killed this month while on a jog near the University of Georgia, was “barbaric” and referred to her as “a beautiful young woman.”
The Democratic National Committee said Thursday that it would display a mobile billboard in Eagle Pass during Trump’s visit criticizing him over his efforts to kill the bipartisan border bill and his immigration agenda.
“If given the chance, Trump would double down on his cruel, chaotic, and inhumane immigration agenda of ripping away children from their parents, rounding up people into detention camps, and using the military to carry out mass deportations,” DNC spokesperson Alex Floyd said in a statement.
“When voters head to the ballot box this November, they’ll remember how Trump put himself and his political ambitions ahead of securing the border and delivering for the American people.”
The Biden administration argued the migration was due to other factors, including seasonal fluctuations, recent hurricanes in Central America and misinformation promoted by human smugglers.
Border cities in Texas, such as El Paso and Eagle Pass, have been overwhelmed at times with an unprecedented influx that has stretched local resources thin and prompted frantic calls for federal help.
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Pretty clear neither of these imperialists give a fuck about the people, and only care about its effects on the election. Reps make a big deal out of nothing to use against dems, and dems concede to them.
Just the usual ratchet effect
Wait isn’t the stop in this diagram set up so that the ratchet will loosen?
It seems that the nut will only move to the left. All the spinning on the right will just be a bunch of loud clatter but it’s barely gonna nudge the nut. All it’s gonna do is give the hand more room to turn the nut to the left.
I don’t think this diagram conveys what you want it to.
This might be the single most disingenuous post I’ve ever seen.
Go back and look at the '90s. Conservative Democrats are practically progressives by comparison.
90s Democrats gave us the Telecommunications Act of 1996, and they had previously agreed that yes, conservatives need a bigger voice in media and government. They literally laid the groundwork for fascism, like handing Hitler his PA system
How are democrats blocking movement back left? Unless it’s refusing to play dirty, like freezing out a Supreme Court nominee for almost a year, or passing knowingly constitutionally dubious laws to let the courts essentially legislate from the bench, I just don’t see it that way at all.
They keep actually leftist politicians out of the race by not having real primaries, instead selecting milquetoast right-of-center candidates that manage to lose against current republicans.
Sanders 2020!
It’s not even refusing to play dirty. Liberals haven’t had all 3, POTUS, Senate, and House, at the same time in my lifetime.
They were within a couple seats in Biden’s first 2 years. Manchin and Sinema gave Democrats a majority, but they still didn’t have a liberal majority. And with the extremely politicized SCOTUS, there are major limits to what liberals can accomplish.
Not only that, but conservative propaganda works really well. It’s not even always policy. Identity politics are actively working against Democrats. So when something that is policy like immigration gets national attention, Democrats cannot afford to ignore it. If they do, THEY WILL LOSE to the people who are radicals.
You know what’s easy though?
Not bypassing congress to sell arms to a country specifically for genocide. (Biden and Israel)
Democrats will break rules / norms, it’s just almost never for causes that help people.
He could have simply not done anything, and it would have been better.
If “Don’t go out of your way to support genocide.” is asking too much, then don’t be surprised when people aren’t excited to vote for your candidate.
I agree his attachment to Israel is fucked up. I don’t like it. It might cost him the election. He helped with the pause and hostage negotiation and pressed for a ceasefire and that’s about it. I know Trump would be worse, but that’s not a lot of solace.
Biden has pressed a lot of student debt forgiveness. And it seems like he pushes a new loophole every day. They have fought like hell to keep abortions legal (travel, medication, etc). They replaced a Breyer to keep the court from becoming even more radicalized. They have pushed against the Texas shit like their death traps and state law enforcement. Pushing the boundaries of what is allowed in the Budget Reconciliation.
That along with my civil rights being actively attacked by the GOP makes me eager to vote for Biden. And if we ever want abortion rights back in all states, we need a LIBERAL majority everywhere, not just a Democratic majority.
I think he has done a lot by pushing the boundaries. It’s just not sexy to talk about because it’s not hurting people.
Student debt has only been folks who should already have received forgiveness. He’s not doing shit for most borrowers.
He’s blocking ceasefire resolutions at the UN.
He has a conservative Republican for an AG.
I mean, he’s milquetoast at best. Most progressive in decades ain’t shit when they’re all right wing.
So you are less than 14 years old?
2009-2011, they had all 4, POTUS, Senate (59 seats), House and SCOTUS.
Seriously learn some damn history. And it’s extremely disingenious to claim that the Dems didn’t have all 3 from 2021-2023.
Further the last time the GOP has had all 3 was in 2007. Yet, somehow they manage to get their agenda through.
I’m 34.
I said liberals not Dems.
I said liberals not Dems.
And learn some damn history yourself. Trump replaced 2 liberal justices which only requires POTUS and Senate. And we learned under Trump that it’s much, MUCH easier to hurt people than to help people. Thanks everyone who refused to vote for Hillary. You did this.
You want change? Vote more liberals in. Don’t want change? Keep bitching.
Yet again, with the disingenious bullshit.
Liberals = Dems
And learn some damn history yourself. Trump replaced 2 liberal justices which only requires POTUS and Senate. And we learned under Trump that it’s much, MUCH easier to hurt people than to help people. Thanks everyone who refused to vote for Hillary. You did this.
You just proved my point, dude. Look you don’t need all three branches to actual produce results for your base. The Dems don’t produce the results we want because they do not want to not because they’re powerless.
Liberals = Dems
If you think that, you probably shouldn’t talk politics. And it’s probably not worth the time to talk politics with you.
I’ve got bad news for you. The democrats are indeed liberals, and so are the Republicans. Perhaps it’s you who doesn’t understand politics?
You should probably learn political terms before telling people not to talk politics. Liberalism as defined by Oxford.
I assume his point is that calling Manchin or Sinema “liberal” isn’t super accurate.
Democrats have made it a point to block or stifle any leftist candidates and progressive ideals. They constantly capitulate to the right while telling the left (i.e. Eisenhower Republicans) to fuck off. Adam Schiff’s bid to block Katie Porter from a Senate seat is the most recent example of this. They were stunned when Hillary lost to Obama, and furious when Biden was challenged by Sanders. They have ALWAYS backed conservative candidates over even centrist ones, and only propose popular bills when they know they can’t pass them. There will never be a challenge to Citizens United because they benefit directly from it, and the SCOTUS gives them an excuse to never challenge. They refused to codify Roe when they KNEW it would be overturned because they still think it’s a cash cow. They will give every excuse imaginable for inaction but never a plan for action.
Biden wants to massively increase ICE’s budget. Most folks on the left would rather ICE not exist at all.
Hindenburg reaches across the aisle for bipartisan legislation 2024 edition
I am glad to see some effort to find middle ground. The United States is so divided right now, I worry what the future holds.
Though this isn’t really the issue I’m enthusiastic to see that alignment on.
I am glad to see some effort to find middle ground.
I for one am not glad to see even more alignment with the fascist party, as if funding the genocide isn’t fascist enough for them.
The United States is so divided right now, I worry what the future holds.
The mask-off genocide it’s currently openly supporting probably has something to do with it.
Trump told republicans to vote against a bipartisan border bill so democrats wouldn’t get a victory.
He’s poking the dude.
I could be wrong all the way around. That’s what I’d do though. I’d poke the bastard.
Ultimately, it sucks that it seems like we have to hold democracy together long enough to find someone who has the balls to make serious changes. One of these guys sent his people to the capitol to raise hell in an attempt to keep power and potentially eliminate any chance for positive change in the future. The other did not. They are not the same.
Didn’t Biden call the dude and enemy of the state on a few occasions?
Impeachment… Colluding with enemies of the state…
I’m being facetious of course, I’d rather they break the tradition of trying to impeach every president on their way out the door, but still, how you gonna have a meeting with someone you yourself called an enemy of the state?
Because he knows Trump is going to Trump and refuse to work with him. Biden’s perspective= win win and shows the orange broke dumb shit is all smoke and mirrors.
Trump’s supporters don’t care, so all it shows that Biden is a fascist collaborator.
Anyone paying attention has known that for decades. When Biden eulogized Strom Thurmond, he certainly didn’t do it out of a dislike for fascists.
How long have you believed Joe Biden is a fascist collaborator?
Since he collaborated on genociding Palestinians by bypassing Congress to ensure Israel got more weapons.
Now he’s trying collaborate on a fascist anti-refugee border deal with the fascists and their fascist leader.
Like???
If you’re not voting, why haven’t you done something already to stop him?
What would make me think that with your track record of doing nothing in the past, that you would start now?
Because I’m not as brave as Aaron Bushnell.
And what did he accomplish for the broader left, except eliminate somebody who could have been participating in direct action?
I think that’s a little too advanced for Biden, but it wouldn’t surprise me that hear a staffer suggested exactly that… Don’t think much of Biden, but the current white house is doing damned well IMHO.
I do sincerely hope trump opts out. None of his fan base is going to be affected in the slightest either way, because cult, but trump will think he’s god gift for participating, and his head is already way too fucking big.
The GOP as a whole is actively antagonistic with America. But you have to work with them if you want to get anything done.
NO
YOU
DON’T
Please explain how.
The French have a nifty invention just for such a problem.
The exact same way the GOP keeps getting things done: do not capitulate, and tell the people why the other side is wrong. Don’t say stupid shit like “we have to pass it to see what’s in it!!”
Super easy, barely an inconveninece.
He probably doesn’t remember.
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Our politicians may not always get along, but at least they agree about hating brown people.
Don’t talk with insurrectionists
Yes, we have one party here. But so does America. Except, with typical extravagance, they have two of them!
-Julius Nyerere
Okay, so there’s a master example of how to finesse your opponent. The guy may be 81 years old, but his brain is working just fine.
Dude is the definition of speak softly and carry a big stick. He’s fucking smart. He’s done this type of stuff all term. It’s how he kept us from going into default.
They’re totally different though guys I swear
Just because you dislike both, doesn’t mean they’re the same.
If Trump gets elected, he’s going to be reinstalling those deadly traps Texas put up. He’s going to shut down all the crossings he can. Closed border. He’s going to steal migrant children again. He’s going to come after DACA kids.
They are not the same.
You are the correct one here. The US lost thousands of children from that kids and cages Trump bullshit. Literally lost them. One father hung himself to death after losing his child to the Trump family torture bs.
People don’t remember how fucked up Trump was.
That or there are SOME pro-Trump people in here feigning offense or manipulating the votes.
As opposed to Biden who is much superior because he’s only going to do 99% of that. You know the concentration camps are still running right? The same ones the dems performatively denounced when Trump was in power?
Texas can reinstall the “Traps” on their own, and probably already have. They have also reinstalled the razor wire etc they had too. Is Turmp actually already president or something? Why are you conflating the actions of a state with the president?
Either you don’t pay attention to the news or you’re a plant trying to make Democrats stay home. Have fun with your wall. Enjoy watching kids get ripped away from their parents. Enjoy watching kids who only know English get deported to a country they don’t understand. Enjoy watching people drown in the ocean. That’s what you’re advocating for. If you think it’s bad now, it’s going to be so much worse if Trump gets elected. The president can’t always force it one way or another. But they can help or hinder these actions.
Apparently you don’t pay attention either. https://www.businessinsider.com/texas-supreme-court-border-fence-ruling-more-razor-wire-2024-1?op=1
There’s more issues than just razor wire. But feel free to ignore that and let Trump make this much worse.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/06/politics/texas-mexico-border-water-barriers-migrants/index.html
He’s clearly just jerking the guy’s chain after he told his fellow magats to block the last border bill.
Are you suggesting BOTH SIDES might have terminal flaws contributing directly to the downfall of the American society?
howdareyou.wav
Are you suggesting BOTH SIDES might have terminal flaws contributing directly to the downfall of the American society?
If this were true I’d vote twice for both of them.
It’s good you noticed that one is a fascist, racist, misogynist piece of shit and the other is just old and bordering on senile. I, for one, will take old and senile over selfish and willful destruction of my country, thanks.
If a third, viable option that doesn’t split votes and guarantee a Trump win, happens to come about, then I’d be happy to vote for him or her. Until then, I’ll be voting for the most viable opponent to Trump — and right now that’s Grandfather Octogenarian.
