Context: I sometimes hear the argument that god explicitly told Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit, the same way a parent tells its child not to stick things or touch electrical outlets. So god forcing the two of them to have children and dooming every human ever since is perfectly justified.
Former Christian here, them choosing to eat the fruit and ignoring God’s instructions is the entire point. This is a lesson for humanity so that they know the consequences of ignoring the one almighty.
Don’t down vote me here, I’m just the delivery girl.
Is there also some lore behind how could god punish them, even thought they couldn’t distinguish between good and evil before eating from the tree? This question has already been mentioned in the comments, and nobody I’ve ever talked to knew the answer.
It’s even stupider than that.
The tree was not, as is commonly thought, the tree of knowledge.
It was the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
So God tells them not to eat the fruit, but doesn’t give them a sense of right and wrong. Why would they even know that they had to obey him?
Then they eat the fruit, which they didn’t know was a bad thing to do, and get punished for it.
It would be like leaving a steak in the room with a dog, saying, “if you eat this, you’re a bad dog,” then coming back and punishing the dog for eating the steak.
I love the Gnostic response that the “serpent” was actually Sophia, who was giving knowledge to Adam and Eve because Yahweh was being an immature, narcissistic dick.
The free will paradox. God already knows what you’ll do but wants to pretend that you have a choice about what to do.
Why create someone or allow the creation of someone if you already know they are going to be a violent axe murderer that will kill a dozen people with his bare hands, be non-repentant and end up getting thrown into everlasting hell?
God is either an idiot that doesn’t know what they are doing.
Or they are psychopathic and just allow these things to happen because they like watching us perform for them.
Or even worse, they purposefully create these individuals knowing what they will do and what will result but don’t care.
Why would an Axe murderer kill people with their bare hands? Wouldn’t they use an Axe instead?
There have been people who have been born, lived, and died as atheists. God creates these people despite knowing full well that they will never accept Jeebus as their lord and personal pan pizza and will, therefore, be destined for eternal torture in the afterlife.
Such an entity deserves no praise, only all-encompassing righteous indignation.
Why did Jesus have to take the blame for “our sins” when it was the father who caused it?
God is gaslighting us
gaslighting is the act of lighting a gas stove
I thought it was lighting a fart
Exactly, I mean is he stupid? Is he not aware what omniscient or omnipotent mean? Because if he does he’s wasting everyone’s time and if he doesn’t then that’s another paradox right there.
Look, if you play SimCity, is that a waste of your time? And do you care if you’re wasting the time of the Sim citizens?
It’s another matter if the sims are conscious, feeling individuals.
