500ml to 440ml?
Edit: the 440 on the right, is the last of a can that I bought in a four pack. The 500 on the left, is one of three I bought as singles.
Packaged Guinness comes in 440 milliliters. Single cans of Guinness come in 500 mL.
Apparently, that’s how Guinness does it here in Canada.
And apparently, I lazily avoided any attempt to research or apply any level of critical thinking before posting.
6 pack bottles used to be 12 fl. oz. and they changed to 11.2. This was 5 or more years ago though.
Dafuk is a floz
Fluid ounce.
Fluid nonce?
I always wonder how far companies will go with this. Do they stop at 300ml? 200ml? Are we going to see 100ml cans of Guinness?
Guinness is owned by diageo a company know for having no bottom, toptier shit heads. They’d charge you full price to spit in your mouth if they could.
Also unpopular oppionion don’t drink this mediocre beer. Support local brewery’s there is probably one with a porter on nitro (guiness is barely a stout).
Sorry Irish people your cultural touchstone is a bit shit.
I did local-ish. Then they were bought out and shrinkflated.
https://lemmy.ca/post/11674959
Was drinking Guinness til I found another.
Any famous beer that is associated with a country is usually shit… Like molson canadian, fosters, or bud light
It took me a while to realize guinness falls firmly into this category as well
I don’t think Fosters is associated with a country. Maybe Japan or England.
it was marketed here (north america) as an australian beer… i think their slogan was “australian for beer” at some point. also parodied heavily in the simpsons episode in australia…
never heard of any associations with japan or england
Funilly enough Fosters is japanese now, and hasn’t been Australian for decades.
Asahi have been buying up all of Australia’s breweries, even a bunch of popular micros are owned by them now.
Before asahi, they were owned by ABINBEV and SABMiller.
It was actually made in many countries by the likes of Heineken, Coors, Molson, and others. I don’t think any true fosters has been made in Australia and exported for a very long time.
Haha that’s what I was poking at. You won’t find it on tap in an Australian pub. I don’t even see it in bottle shops.
For a while it was in the international section of one of the big liquor stores. Thought that was funny.
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Fun fact. Arthur Guinness was a staunch Unionist.
Definitely an interesting man and brewery for sure don’t get me wrong. The problem I have with guiness is the same I have with many famous breweries. Is that as soon as they are bought out by soulless mega corps be it AB inbev, Heineken, asahi or lion Nathan all that culture and history may as well be thrown out the window. The past of these great breweries is nothing more than a tool for the marketing team to increase sales numbers. Which is definitely a shame. Support local small business that are actively involved in your community over international mega corporations. Be a conscious consumer and vote with your dollar in everything not just beer.
Didn’t Asahi acquire all of lion Nathan breweries over a decade ago?
Edit, actually kirin owns lion Nathan, but asahi definitely aquaired some of their brands a while ago.
The past of these great breweries is nothing more than a tool for the marketing team to increase sales numbers. Which is definitely a shame.
I like that actually - big things wither, small things conquer. And small things are personal, so things with soul are stronger than things without it.
That is not new though? I am fairly certain I bought both sizes at various places all over Europe. I guess the 440 is meant for the british market while the 500 is intended for civilised countries.
Why would the 440ml be for the UK specifically?
I always thought it was because 440ml is a round number when you convert it from metric to medieval units (not a pint though, which is 568ml), but a quick google shows me there’s another reason:
One reason for the popularity of the 440ml size is its convenience for calculating alcohol units. A 440ml can at 4.5% alcohol by volume (ABV) equates to exactly 2 units of alcohol, making it easier for consumers to track their alcohol consumption
2 units of alcohol?
What is a unit of alcohol?
The UK measures alcohol in units to track total amount consumption, as it’s not easy to track with percentage in volume. A unit is 10 ml of pure alcohol, and cans/bottles/etc have the total units printed. That way it’s supposed to be easier to track how much alcohol you drink e.g. if you drink a beer, then a wine - now that’s 4 units.
I’m not British so I’m not used to units, but at least that’s the theory.
Beer in the UK is usually sold in pints, 1 pint = 538ml https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/310651734
P.S. I’m wrong, a pint is 568ml. Shrinkflation for real!
A pint is 568ml.
Edit: the extra 30ml might be accounted for with the patented Guinness widget, a little ball of nitrogen gas that ruptures and forms a foamy head when the can is cracked.
In Britain lots of beers come on both sizes, and it makes comparing prices #mildlyinfuriating. Is 6x500ml at £7.99 better than 4x440ml at £4.50? What if there’s an 12 pack of 330ml stubbies for £15, but it’s Buy One Get One Free?
Purely curious myself, I asked GPT4 for you. This is the response:
Here’s how the prices compare per liter:
• 6x500ml at £7.99: £2.66 per liter • 4x440ml at £4.50: £2.56 per liter • 12x330ml at £15 (Buy One Get One Free): £1.89 per liter
The 12 pack of 330ml stubbies (with the Buy One Get One Free offer) offers the best value at £1.89 per liter.
GPT4 is wrong and it doesn’t require a price per litre comparison to prove it.
4 cans at 440ml cost £4.50. Therefore 12 cans at 440ml cost £13.50, £1.50 less than 12 cans at 330ml.
Buy one get one free though - it’s actually 24 x 330ml for £15
Ah shit. Reading is hard sometimes.
Yeah, this is not new and not shrinkflation… here in Canada the 440ml has been around for over 20 years in multi-packs, and the 500ml is available as individual cans.
Good one to cross post here: https://lemmy.ca/c/shrinkflation
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !shrinkflation@lemmy.ca
On that note, I’m kind of annoyed that the Threadiverse doesn’t have a standard way to link to a post or comment in a cross-instance way, just to a community.
Not only in Canada. My wife just commented that she has never even seen a 500ml Guinness can, both single and multipack come in 440ml here.
This is not shrinkflation.
440ml is a UK variant. No one has a confirmed explanation for its existence alongside 500ml, but it’s been around for decades.
However 440ml of water would be 0.44kg which is just under one pound imperial weight (0.45kg). Presumably the fluid plus the aluminium can would weigh about 1lb which may explain the odd volume measure (given transport costs are often by weight and possibly even how customs costs may have used to work?).
Guinness in the UK is sold in pints, like any other beer and ale (and milk) https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/310651734
1 pint = 538ml
P.S. I’m wrong, a pint is 568ml. Shrinkflation for real!
In a pub yes. But in cans both 500ml and 440ml are common sizes and have been for a long time. Pint sized cans are sometimes available but are much less common and I’m not sure I’ve ever seen them in a big multipack
Well, you can see them in Tesco.
By big multipack I meant like 12, 18, 24, not 4
Ok, I don’t drink that much beer. I only buy a can or two. Pints suit me just fine.
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Vodka exists, why waste money? :)