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God wants the gay to suffer, because god is absolutely a sadist, almost all of old testament is about how god hurts people, often for no reason.
He also tortured his son or himself IDK, depends on what lunacy people subscribe to. So he is absolutely a sadist, with the possibility of also being a masochist.
Apart from that he is a flaming narcissist, just consider the 10 commandments, the first ones are all about him.Unfortunately, many Christians interpret this other people should keep on dying so they can keep doing their sins, and gays are the chosen victim at the moment.
Homophobia is a core Christian concept backed up by multiple passages in the Bible.
Stop being Christian. It makes being a good person so much easier.
As Biblical Scholar Dan McClellan notes, the mores of the era are always changing, and so Christians of any era have to negotiate with scripture to recognize the mores of their time. Slavery is the common example, and slavery (yes, the lifelong forced-breeding and free sale slavery) is not just condoned but established in the old and new testaments, and so modern Christians have to find a justification to condemn it today.
But then they also have to find a justification why they don’t sell all their things and walk the earth preaching the gospel without concern for their own meals and shelter from the elements, as Jesus commanded. A big one, which comes not just from Christianity but from time immemorial and is consistent with ancient mores is the provision of hospitality to strangers and immigrants (on which the early United States was based). In fact, this was a principal sin against God that warranted the firebombing of Sodom and Gomorrah (The threat of rapine, of sexual assault as a means of public torture was the sin of sodomites against the angels. Buggery or Sodomy was actually a lesser wrongdoing, like an assassin parking in a disabled parking zone)
There are dozens of different commandments which disagree with modern interpretations of Christianity, with the ministry of James W. Fifield Jr. creating a lot of the interpretations that inform US conservatism and Christian Nationalism today, eventually steering so many ministries away from elevating the poor and hungry towards open judgement of undesirables and loud women, that even the Vatican focuses more effort today on restricting abortions and condemning LGBT+ folk than they do on feeding the hungry and enriching the poor. As one tweeter noted, Christianity now is all about licensed fucking.
Just because they find ways to adjust the texts to the times doesn’t mean the texts don’t say what they say. Yes I have heard that episode where Dan tries to contextualize the homophobic stuff away. Greco-Roman world had gay marriage and we are supposed to believe that Paul only understood gay sex in terms of dude raping his slave, when Paul specifically calls out lesbianism?
Stop apologizing, you know what the text says. The faster you can see what is literally on the page the faster you can leave religion
Religion isn’t an issue for me.
But sex was understood differently (as was gay marriage) in the classic age then as it is today. For instance consent wasn’t a thing.
And no, we can’t agree on what biblical text says, whether that’s about how it should be translated, which passages take priority over which others, what is parable versus what is literal and so on.
Yeah it’s almost like a 2000+ year old book written by unverifiable authors isn’t the best guide for how to act in a society this far in the future.
Ironically, too, as multiple passages of the Bible make reference to Jesus kissing his male apostles and the idea that the love one feels for a sibling, parent, stranger or lover should be the same.
THE JEWS FUCKING SHOT JESUS INTO SPACE
And they’re using him to power their space laser.
Truly diabolical
This actually sounds like a keen premise for a sci-fi story, in which a faction finds a living god, holds Them captive and siphons Their divinity as energy to power massive planet-ripping weapons.
That sounds like too many games I’ve played.
Isn’t that basically Warhammer 40k?
I only decorate cakes for gay stag parties. By which I mean I ice them…
He said with a very homosexual look in his eyes
Gay twink hottie Jesus.
Honestly, I think the only time you should be able to refuse service is if the customer is being an irate asshat who is causing problems or otherwise breaking the law (IE coming in naked). The right to refuse service for any reason doesn’t make sense unless being used to discriminate against something.
It’s a tough one to actually articulate properly. I am strongly against most discrimination. E.g. not serving blacks, or women.
At the same time there are situations where it’s justifiable. E.g. a bar not being willing to serve someone they think might cause trouble.
There are also grey areas. Selling a cake, Vs decorating a cake falls into that one. Selling a cake should not be used to discriminate. At the same time, I fully support a decorator’s right not to make a particular cake. E.g. a neo nazi group wanting a cake praising Hitler with extremely crude language. However, that same line would also allow a baker to refuse to sell a custom calendar to a gay couple.
Even limiting to goods could be grey. Selling eggs should be uncontroversial. But how about selling eggs and spray paint to a gaggle of giggling teens on Halloween?
In short, there are times it is completely acceptable to discriminate. Unfortunately, I am completely unable to actually articulate a good line, that doesn’t also protect bigoted arseholes.
Jesus Christ on a cross that’s graphic.
Make you feel any better to know that only John says nailed. Matthew, Mark, Luke and Paul say tied.
Almost as if John wanted some extra drama
John nailed it
Ahh yes, the Klein’s who moved from Oregon to Montana and operate a bakery there now? Those bigots?
The notorious one was Masterpiece Cakes in Colorado. The case made it to the US Supreme Court and was ruled narrowly in favor of the cake shop, but with opinions from the Federalist Society jurists that sincere religious beliefs by principal owning-class members of a company trumped equal-accommodations laws of a state (such as the state of California).
That was the Gorsuch court, before Kavanaugh replaced Ted Kennedy.
Taylor Hawkins?
