The claim being that… Western powers are unwilling to see the threat in appeasing Germany (Russia) because they want to focus on the perceived larger threat of communism (China)?
If we’re talking about the constant push for “peace talks” in Western media, no, they either want to focus on keeping the capitalism engine churning (instability is bad for global markets; small, manageable wars are fine, but huge East-West conflicts that result in huge sanctions aren’t. Sanctions = less business), or they’re seeking appeasement because they’re right wingers who agree with the ideals of the aggressor (I’d make some comparison about being the “modern equivalent of Nazi sympathisers”, but it’s just Nazi sympathisers. Same old song. Putin might not be a Nazi, but he sure is a fascist, and he hates all the things Nazis hate).
Outside of the mainstream media you’ve got a grab bag of leftists who either reflexively believe that all global conflict can be boiled down to “War bad, peace good, therefore weapons for Ukraine bad, peace talks with Russia good”, or who’ve conflated criticising Western imperialism (which, y’know, we absolutely should be doing) with the notion that ergo anyone who hates the West is the good guy. Usually equal parts of both. Plus of course, your alt-right types who love Putin because he hates the gays (see above).
He’s asking how OP (and you?) think this is different from Poland in 1939. Regardless of whether or not you agree, do you understand the parallel being drawn?
If we swapped out “Ukraine” for “Poland” and the year was 1939, would you still feel good about the position you’re apparently defending?
The claim being that… Western powers are unwilling to see the threat in appeasing Germany (Russia) because they want to focus on the perceived larger threat of communism (China)?
If we’re talking about the constant push for “peace talks” in Western media, no, they either want to focus on keeping the capitalism engine churning (instability is bad for global markets; small, manageable wars are fine, but huge East-West conflicts that result in huge sanctions aren’t. Sanctions = less business), or they’re seeking appeasement because they’re right wingers who agree with the ideals of the aggressor (I’d make some comparison about being the “modern equivalent of Nazi sympathisers”, but it’s just Nazi sympathisers. Same old song. Putin might not be a Nazi, but he sure is a fascist, and he hates all the things Nazis hate).
Outside of the mainstream media you’ve got a grab bag of leftists who either reflexively believe that all global conflict can be boiled down to “War bad, peace good, therefore weapons for Ukraine bad, peace talks with Russia good”, or who’ve conflated criticising Western imperialism (which, y’know, we absolutely should be doing) with the notion that ergo anyone who hates the West is the good guy. Usually equal parts of both. Plus of course, your alt-right types who love Putin because he hates the gays (see above).
If we swapped out swapped out “finger” for “orphan” and “licking” for “maiming”, would you still feel good about eating at KFC?
Let’s leave the veganism out of this. The question is whether or not others have a right to defend the victim of aggression.
Nah, I’m just here to point out how stupid “if you change the words in a sentence, suddenly it means something else!” Arguments are.
He’s asking how OP (and you?) think this is different from Poland in 1939. Regardless of whether or not you agree, do you understand the parallel being drawn?
They do, but they don’t have a counter-argument, so being deliberately obtuse is the v best they can come up with.