X isn’t a source. This is.
I bet this is netflix’s fault for showing firebenders in avatar burning people alive. These impressionable youth in the Air Force can’t tell reality from fiction, y’know.
“My name is Aaron Bushnell. I am an active duty member of the United States Air Force, and I will no longer be complicit in genocide. I’m about to engage in an extreme act of protest, but compared to what people have been experiencing in Palestine at the hands of their colonizers, it’s not extreme at all. This is what our ruling class has decided will be normal… FREE PALESTINE!”
So he was put out with fire extinguishers and transported to the nearest hospital.
Apparently a gun was also drawn and aimed at him while he was set himself on conflagarion.
I did have to look up conflagarian to make sure that I was using it correctly. I still don’t think I am.
But if anybody else is curious about what happened to him, I think he’s alive and in a hospital. Saved you the click.
The word you’re looking for immolation. Or in this case, self-immolation.
I think immolate implies yourself. In dark souls at least, the spell Immolation can’t set anybody except yourself on fire. And it looks like other latin words that mean Self.
Everyone knows you need an active immolate or shadowflame on the target before you can conflagrate.
I have some memory of this from a game but cannot place it.
World of Warcraft
It’s cool. You could just say “on fire” in this context. But we understand you, and that’s the goal of communication anyway.
I was high as fuck when typing out that comment.
Still, appreciate the communication.
I would say, “succumbed to the conflagration” or “took part in the conflagration.”
But really, a conflagration is usually a much bigger fire that destroys entire buildings or cities.
I think the better term would be self-immolation.
conflagarion
conflagration
Gesundheit
Self-immolation. To set oneself ablaze, usually in protest.
that’s horrible. with burns that severe it’s the most cruel to stop in the middle and make him live thru the pain and recovery period and bills
Yeah if I was going to go down like this I’d already have taken several lethal doses of something. I would not want to survive.
Have no idea why the cop drew his gun.
Maybe they were afraid that the burning man would run at them.
He must have saw an acorn!
He’s fighting fire with gunfire.
They’re simple and primitive creatures, they see danger, they draw gun.
I don’t want to derail the thread, but this detail absolutely leapt out at me like a hungry puma:
Law enforcement also drew a gun on the burning man during the incident, while he was screaming in pain.
I saw the video he made on tik tok last night before it was removed. Fucking brutal. But the guy pointing the gun at him was frozen. I’ve seen it before and it’s happened to me. The brain just shuts the fuck off. System overload. He’ll have the memory of that horrifying moment right along side the memory of the failure of his own mind and body completely failing him, forever. People were shouting “we need fire extinguishers not guns” but the guy just couldn’t do anything, even after the guy had collapsed and the fire was put out, he was still locked in place aiming his pistol at the body.
The Airman who self immolated could have spent the rest of his life trying to make a difference for Palestinians, now he can never help, and he’ll be forgotten in a couple of weeks of the news cycle. If anyone ever feels the need to do something, help, don’t hurt. Hurt never helps.
That’s not how martyrdom works.
This man’s actions just inspire me to support the Palestinian cause more.
You don’t see Zionists self-immolating, and it’s because they’re winning.
I think their point was that martyrdom does not in fact work.
I still remember the Russian woman who burnt herself alive in protest of the Ukraine war.
The police officer suffers from lack of adequate training. Your fire fighters, medics, nurses, physicians, etc would jump right in. The police are only taught to see the public as their enemies, and this is the result.
I will remember this. He acted on the frustration millions of other people feel. I don’t know what the impact will be but the Arab Spring start with one immolation.
I’m sure he thought he was making a difference, but in reality the only difference he probably made was that the fire extinguishers on Embassy Row will be checked for expiration dates.
Goddamn…
I’m glad we give people like that guns
Nothing pisses off the police more than someone who is suicidal, which is why the murder rate is so high when welfare checks are called in.
It’s weird how many people in this topic are trying to downplay the action and dismiss it as a momentary thing, easily forgotten.
If this makes it to the 6:00 news I guarantee you this will not be easily forgotten.
Being willing to die for it is certainly a statement.
Looking through two US news sites though, I can’t see much about it. You’d think it’d be pretty high up, but looks like they’re burying it.
my problem is with how the news ignores everything he said and invalidates his action as mental illness.
In the mid to late 1990s, my conservative father drove all around the south Puget Sound area complaining about those “Damn California Drivers” cuz, you see, they were under attack by all these out of state types. It wasn’t until my brother finished Marines training in San Diego and my parents drove down to see his vacation. I was living in CA at the time so they stopped by and suddenly my father goes “wow, people are really good at negotiating the roads here”.
In the end, it was easier for him to talk about how these horrible people coming from CA were ruining the area than it was to accept that people in South Puget Sound are and have always been asshole drivers.
I don’t condone self harm but damn this dude went full Buddhist monk.
He even kept screaming Free Palestine while on fire.
It is the most intense display of pure passion I have probably ever seen
He even kept screaming Free Palestine while on fire
That’s real bravery.
Aaron Bushnell, may we forever remember his name!
the man in Air Force uniform said he was “an active duty member of the U.S. Air Force and I will no longer be complicit in genocide.” Filming himself walking, he said that what he was going to do would be minimal compared to what is happening to Palestinians. He then set himself on fire and repeatedly shouted “Free Palestine.” […] In the video the airman identifies himself as Aaron Bushnell
holy FUCKING based
this is the only type of military worker i will thank for their service. i hope he is able to recover.
Don’t hate service members. Most of them are poor kids looking for a way to get to college. That said, you should absolutely criticize our military and it’s leaders.
Reluctant Disclaimer: am a veteran
He’s reportedly dead now.
rest in peace, he’s a hero
No, suicidal. Nothing about his death makes any sense to anyone. Wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out he was experiencing personal problems or mental health issues.
Surprise mothefucker it’s possible to die for a cause and have mental health issues at the same time. Crazy, I know.
Getting killed by the IDF smuggling relief supplies into or people out of Palestine is dying for a cause. Going to fight and die in Ukraine is dying for a cause. Running into a building to save people is dying for a cause. This wasn’t dying for a cause any more than if he’d gone on a shooting spree or blew up a building and said it was for Palestine…simply saying Free Palestine while committing suicide contributes nothing to the issue aside from more tragedy.
I wonder if the deceased left any writing that might give a glimpse of his state of mind.
Its war and a very old war. The world did a very stupid thing by creating Isreal and displacing Palastine. Anyone with a sibling should be able to predict the never ending chain of tit for tat such an act would engender. Lots of ethnicities dont have their ‘own country’. Why should the world create an ethno-state for Zionist and not say, one for Kurdish people?
At this point everyone in power in that region has been in power too long, they lost the pot, and arent even considering peaceful solutions. People with heart see children dying on both sides, and it hurts, man, hurts bad. Even more if you have your own babies.
Im going to speculate now
The deceased spent his adult life believing in justice and service and courage but being confronted with the grim reality that the leaders are cowardly murderers on both sides he had an “are we the baddies?” moment and if the deceased was already struggling with depression he could easily internalize that trauma and let it become self loathing. I think the suicide is his way to condemn those he percieves as culpable. Like saying the situation is so rotten he would rather be on fire than put up with another day of mans inhumanity towards man, or saying we arent worthy of his continued participation.
But Im speculating, I dont really know
Yes it is. Doubt that is the case here at all. It was a profoundly stupid act that leaves everyone scratching their heads. Best comparison I’ve seen is if a Confederate soldier set themselves alight to protest slavery and even the Union is going wtf.
It’s not “irregular”, and it’s been done before as protest. A Buddhist monk did it in the past to protest the slaughter of cattle.
Are you vegan?
I think it takes a great deal of mental health issues to self-immolate, no matter how good the cause, but that doesn’t change the fact that this airman died in protest of genocide.
For all you know he self immolated because he hadn’t been taking his meds. In any event it was a dumb, painful, pointless way to die for somebody who has NOTHING to do with the conflict. If he thought as an airman he was contributing somehow, he could have just resigned.
He directly stated what he was going to do before hand.
Now that’s the type of American I like to see.
Not one with life-threatening injuries, or on fire, mind you, but one who actually stands up for what is right despite risk to himself.
Police waiting for man to turn black before they can claim they shot him in self defense
My brother in christ thas dark.
Is it dark enough to shoot or should we let it cook a little more?
The media will bury it
This story is in all the mainstream news:
https://news.google.com/search?q=air force uniform suicide israel embassy
It’s either not on the front page or a complete afterthought.
The one from the NYT even has some wild cynical phrasing in it:
The man was taken to a nearby hospital with life-threatening injuries.
No embassy staff members were injured, and all were accounted for, according to Tal Naim, a spokeswoman for the embassy.
Nothing in the previous paragraphs was there any indication of harm to others, but they still felt the need to subtley suggest that maybe he was a danger to others. It’s also driving me crazy that they’re referring to the spokeswomen by their names but keep referring to to him as “the man”
“I will no longer be complicit in genocide,” a man said in the video, echoing language that opponents of Israel’s military action in Gaza have used to describe the campaign.
This strikes me a lot like Russia’s ‘Special Military Operationtm’ did when they were soft-peddling their war in Ukraine
What a piece of shit rag they are.
All new articles from Reuters, NYT, Wapo CNN , The Guardian and others have extremely similar headlines. Using
“XXX Set(s) himself on fire outside Israeli embassy (in DC)”.
They all omit that it was because of the Genocide in Gaza.
The word “outside” being used so consistently instead of “in front” is also really weird.
Jesus that Guardian article galls me
I found it cropped but that one seems to be from National Post the crop was not good I am going to edit that
That post does end rather weirdly
It’s just sad. A foolish lost soul who seems to have swallowed Hamas’s lies and destroyed himself in an embarrassing episode for the Air Force.
Are we surprised that most media outlets are propagandists for Israel? I’m slower than many but that was made abundantly clear to me buy October 8th or 9th.
Yes because everyone agreed reporting on suicide is bad due to thy copycat effect
Except this entire subgenre of suicide is a form of protest. Pretty convenient to justify looking away when veterans and service members are killing themselves in public on purpose.
I wonder if any members of the white house press corps will have the balls to ask about this
Why wouldn’t they and why would they need balls?
Questions, like pee, are stored in the balls.
Because George W Bush decided that hard questions meant that you were kicked out of the White House Press Corps.
He left the White House 15 years ago, come join us in 2024, we have cookies and journalists can be female so they don’t need balls.
Is this one of those paid Russian protestors Pelosi was referring to?
No this is one of the organic protesters, who got tricked by foreign agents working to misinform Americans, that Pelosi was talking about.
Misinformed so bad he self-immolated, even.
Law enforcement also drew a gun on the burning man during the incident
Of course they did
What was really needed was a good guy on fire.
If you outlaw firearms, only outlaws will have their arms on on fire
We had good guy on fire
Then we should try bad guy on fire!
You know what they say, fight fire with fire!
I appreciated that the police made it a point to mention they searched the entire area for bombs, like they thought it was most likely the protest was somehow intended as a distraction. Like they actually think it makes sense in their head that some crisis actor would actually light themselves on fire for like $50 so the real terrorists could… you know what, it’s too crazy and stupid to even finish typing out. Police departments are just jobs programs for violent idiots.
Sole things are bound to look like chisels instead. /S
“Maybe if I shoot around him, the air from the passing bullets will blow the fire out! And if I miss and hit him, surely the blood will douse the flames! I’ll be a hero!”
Unsure if protest or just damning indictment of the state of mental healthcare for veterans.
He stated he didn’t want to be complicit in genocide anymore and shouted “Free Palestine”. I think it’s safe to assume it was protest.
¿Por qué no los dos?
In Islam, committing suicide is considered as a major sin and the person committing suicide has to face damnation and the wrath of Allah in the Hereafter. Indeed, Allah forbids paradise for him. According to the Quran there is nothing more precious than life.
Will the actual Gaza strip residents admire this protest?🤔
Wait, ao why are suicide bombers so popular in terrorist groups?
On the one hand because Islamists purposefully misinterpret the message of Allah.
On the other hand it has an extremely complicated historical development that cannot be understood without western imperialism in the Middle East. I can recommend the documentary Hypernormalisation that gives a very rough overview of how it came to be in the larger context of failing western imperialism and the hypocricsy of modern politics.
I mean, thinking about it, christianity - albeit in a milder form - also misinterprets the bible to say what benefits them.
I would not consider christianity to do so in a milder form. For instance Christianity still has a missionary mission, which is not relevant in Islam. While Islam has been encouraging science and research, Christianity has been strongly rejecting it, etc.
Christianity suffers from two main problems in this regard. The first being that the Bible is a political collection of various stories of the Gospel and time after. The second being the long time between Jesus lifetime and the first written reports. This is fundamentally different to Islam, where not only the revelation, but also the life of the prophet Mohammed are well documented and preserved. The Quran is still in its original text and translations are from the direct arabic source. If you read an english bible it was translated from latin by some guy in the middle ages, and the latin version is a few hundred years older, but was translated from old greek, which was translated from older aramaic writings. it is impossible to be a true to the bible christian, because there is hundreds of different versions and they are all representing a political motive in one way or the other. Core concepts of christianity, like Jesus being the literal son of god and the concept of trinity didnt exist until hundreds of years after, when the church wanted to find a way to make christianity more digestible for pagans. Even the core christian holidays, Easter and Christmas are just rebranded pagan holidays using pagan themes.
My favorite verse in the bible is ‘I make my arrows drunk with blood’
Most people dont realise the ancient jewish culture was poly theistic for a long time before writing stuff down became popular. Yaweh was just their war god. That is why the first commandment says ‘you shall have no other gods before me’ because, they had other gods, just Yaweh became the ‘god of gods’ because Jews (and everyone else to be fair) were a nation of bloodthirsty warmongering expansionists at the time. But Im not afraid of sad little Yaweh, he lost because the opposing army had chariots before and I have a car.
In the present day, Islamist terrorists use suicide bombs because it is basically their best tactic for getting the other side to start shooting women and children and seeing every single person as a potential deadly threat. It causes their targets to often restrict their own freedoms (9/11 anyone?) The overall idea is a death by 1000 cuts. They know they cant take on the USA in a toe to toe battle, no one can, USA can delete any country they want (not without consequence but my point is USA holds every advantage in an oldschool war) so they dont do that. Instead what wahhabists try to do is get the USA to embroil itself in forever wars to drain them financially and psycologically. This also wont work, because the country who’s currency has become the worlds main way to store wealth and transact buisness can just make more forever as long as it isnt too much at one time, and a comfortable populace doesnt revolt over a few thousand soldiers dying 3000 miles away if its for revenge. Heck we dont revolt over a few thousand homeless people dying needlessly every year. There is very much is enough to go around, but it cant, must sit in investment portfolio instead.
Notice how Hamas and co. dont often suicide bomb Isreal? Its because the IDF doesnt need encouragment to shoot women and children, IDF and zionists already love doing it, they joke about it and enjoy it much like teenagers on a farm shooting gophers. Ghouls!
Hamas would still use suicide bombings if they didn’t know doing so would prevent their lawfare tactics and sympathy seeking.
