For anyone who needs a reminder: user account ≠ human individual user. There are no bot/captcha protections nor IP restrictions on Lemmy. I’d say we have less than 1 million actual human individual users.
I think it’s grown quite a bit though. Lots more posts, voters, conversation.
Facts, having been here since the API shit went down, i have seen a LOT more engagement on the platform compared to july 2023
Yes, but I don’t think it matters. It’s not hyper specialized yet, but the initial problem of “there are no users” is gone. I don’t think anything can stop the fediverse now. The protocol is just too useful to not support.
Hopefully nothing can stop the fediverse but I am not convinced a company like Meta can’t embrace, extend and extinguish it.
I’m sure people have multiple accidents too, I have more than one.
Me too
I know someone who can help with your potty training.
Sorry
There are legit reasons, for example your main instance is buggy or does not federate with all services. Also, browsing Lemmy via Mastodon etc. is not convenient at all.
I have three, this is the most reliable
I have two, but only because I got annoyed with seeing an a login screen any time I clicked on a kbin comment.
Not that it matters since kbin doesn’t show context anyway.
Shouldn’t have bothered.
Who would downvote a comment like this?
A lot (if not all) Fedi users have multiple accounts on various instances and platforms, so that also inflates the figure
what makes you think this is true or that those alts are significant?
Because you pretty much need a seperate Lemmy, Kbin and Mastodon account. I’ve heard that it’s somehow possible to see Lemmy posts from Mastodon, but I haven’t really been able to understand it. Apparently, it’s janky as hell, but I wouldn’t know, as I just have 3 accounts I use, one for each ‘service’.
Since I moved during the Reddit fiasco when servers were overloaded and didn’t know what I was doing I just hopped from instance to instance. So now I have at least 7 dead accounts that are still probably counted in the ‘users’ statistic.
I’d say one person counting for ~10 is significant, and I doubt I’m alone, even if I am an outlier with my instance-hopping
Lemmy and Kbin should be pretty interoperable, but Lemmy and Mastodon don’t federate particularly well, or at least, the user experience of federation is not great. The formats are just very different since Mastodon doesn’t have much of a concept of groups or communities and doesn’t have post titles and so on.
But you can follow Lemmy communities from Mastodon and posts to the community will show up in your Mastodon feed, and you can boost, favorite (upvote), and comment on the post.
There is likely a large amount of people with both a mastodon and a Lemmy account, just to name some.
if not all
I don’t, so that’s at least one person who doesn’t have multiple accounts
There are indeed many Lemmy instances that have captcha protection, it’s really up to the instance admins if they want to protect or not. Many of those “spam” instances do get quickly defederated by the serious ones.
I would imagine that if bots accounted for so much traffic, we would see more steep vertical growth in numbers
Everyone wishing for more users might be wishing on a cursed monkey paw. I don’t know what the sweet spot number of active users is — I want more so we can have contributors to niche communities — but there’s a tipping point. You want your favorite bar/restaurant/message boards to be popular but not too popular.
I still can’t believe we haven’t seen a @whitehouse.gov.social or whatever spring up. Why in the world would they not want to control their social media presence in house? Why allow Twitter that luxury?
If they went cold turkey on Twitter and set up @potus@whitehouse.social the posts would still end up on Twitter because people would cross post them (just like we see Twitter posts on Masto or lemmy).
At least some EU governments have started making their own accounts.
I think once domains like @washington.usa.gov or @newyork.usa.gov get adopted for precenses on the network we’ll be golden, the EU is already making huge steps for this (as always) so I honestly think it’s only a matter of time, with custom software too I imagine.
Why .social? Why not .us?
.us is sketchy AF. They should use something.gov.
.gov domain should be either abolished or allowed for use by any governments. Of course US is sketchy AF.
That would be confusing. I want to be able to tell govt.nz apart from the US one.
I think their preference is to have US government under .gov.us
.gov is allowed for use by any governments that invented the internet.
I emailed my region’s national weather service and asked that they join Mastodon and the meteorologist said they wanted to but there’s an approval process for communications and it takes awhile to add new services.
I’m basically completely off X (and haven’t had a Facebook account for years) but during a recent storm, I made a new Twitter account that just follows local government accounts. It’s annoying that the fastest way to find out about flooded roads and stuff is X and I really hope that changes soon.
I follow a couple of not stations that have a Masto presence, but I get where you are coming from.
Hopefully the tide will shift more this year.
I know that some people are upset about Threads federating, but I feel like some people may never end up on Masto but could have a Threads account. A local weather station, for example. But if you could simply subscribe to them via Masto without ever making a Threads account that’d be great. And the weather station gets to serve more people (the “normies” — for lack of a better word — on Threads and the nerds on Masto).
Good meteorologist
I emailed my region’s national weather service and asked that they join Mastodon
Thank you for doing that!
I was on reddit for I think about 15 years. Around 30,000,000 users seemed pretty damned nice.
Personally I think it’s more important to break big-tech’s hold on online communication. Every single user who leaves a centralized platform to join the Fediverse is a win in my books! Another thing is that we never had a mainstream decentralized, nonprofit and non-algorithmic social network platform before afaik, I’m actually not sure if the climate will evolve like it did with the other networks.
Honestly, I’m scared of what will come of it. Lemmy is fragile and the lessons of yesteryear don’t apply thanks to AI and evolving spam methods. That said, I’m still cautiously optimistic about the future of lemmy.
I don’t get the hate against algorithms, they’re just a tool, can be good and bad
I’m referring to recommendation algorithms, the bad thing about them is that they can be used to manipulate people. Algorithms in general are fine of course.
recommendation algorithms are fine too, the problem with modern social media is algorithms tuned for engagement.
And which algorithms would that be?
Whatever algorithms youtube, tiktok, instagram etc. use to drive engagement. They don’t have any names that I’m aware of
The problematic ones for that are mostly recommendation algorithms afaik, but there are others like gamification ofc. You can call them engagement algorithms if you want to be a bit more broad. But that’s what I mean when I criticize “algorithmic” platforms, and I think that’s what most people mean when they talk about algorithms in this context.
I guess I just don’t have faith in the majority’s conversation. Once you have a lot of dumb people, all the content starts devolving. Especially the comments.
As a dumb myself, it’s a difficult problem that I don’t have an answer to.
But maybe it’s a net positive. Don’t spend all day on one platform. And the dumb jokes are nice for being less serious all the time. As long as there is still good conversation
Bro, we’ve had like 3 dozen memes at the top about Taylor Swift’s airplane just in the last week. We are not exactly avoiding what I just complained about. So I guess it’ll be okay
Once you have a lot of dumb people, all the content starts devolving. Especially the comments.
As long as the influx of dumb users is matched by a sufficient influx of less-dumb users to help grow niche communities, I think it might be fine. I rarely browsed the large 1M+ subreddits, and mostly stuck to the subs with a few thousand users.
Honestly I feel like the proportion of dumb people here is ever so slightly worse than it was on reddit. It feels like people here are always missing the point of everything, not getting simple jokes, arguing about dumb stuff…
Yeah, even more than on reddit.
The unwashed masses (like myself) will eventually change Lemmy. I don’t think it will ruin it completely because the best part about having hundreds of millions of lemmings is the niche communities.
The main instances and communities are going to get shot to hell though. I’ve accepted that.
You’ll know we’re proper big when subtle coca cola placements worm their way into posts
Those aren’t ads, Coca-Cola™ is just so crisp and refreshing that we can’t help talking about it naturally!
Hey fellow kids. This guy needs to get with Pepsi™ , the taste of the new generation!
Grow more, then we can moderate the desired communities of interest so everyone will be happy.
This is why I believe in some geo-located communities.
It’s easier to find common ground when you’re complaining about the same weather.
And then when you’re interacting with the wider communities, your host community can give context to your way of thinking.
Doesnt feel like it. None of the posts here gets more than 2k upvotes so I doubt if we have 10 million users. Probably it might be Facebook app users which are defederated?
There’s still a ‘hot’ sorting problem. Popular posts don’t appear on it, it’s much too bias to new. So lots of things don’t get the chance to be upvoted.
This is for the fediverse as a whole, not just Lemmy. If you click through, there’s a pie chart that shows the vast majority of users are on Mastodon. Lemmy only accounts for about 4% of these numbers.
that makes sense but 10mil users is hard to believe lol. I tried pixelfed and didn’t get any likes on the pics I uploaded, same pic on Instagram fetched 300+ likes.
Looks like Pixelfed is about 2%. Try Mastodon, I guess - it’s listed as 72%.
EDIT: lol, I just did a quick search - apparently Instagram’s monthly active user count is over two Billion. With a ‘B’. Even with 10 million, it wouldn’t compare.
Wow mastodon looks promising. Almost feels better than twitter. Thanks for recommending mastodon.
I thought lemmy was very big compared to mastadon because of the reddit api thing. Damn. I tried mastadon once but the moderation was very weird.
Fuck yes. Let’s keep it going.
While atproto has reached 5m.
Are they active users?
Are they bots pretending to be people?
On the internet, nobody knows you’re a dog.
Yep. But, it can still be pretty ruff, when someone mentions that my posts about squirrels are arf-putting.
You think people would do that? Just go on the Internet and tell lies?
Woof! …er, I mean, no!
Sounds like something a cat would say.
Meow meow
Are they people pretending to be bots ?
Good bot.
Beep thank you please sent your feedbacks to shadyasfuck.com so we can improve our service Boop.
Or are they dancer?
Nope, that’s gotta just be registered users. We’re kidding ourselves and don’t even have 200k active users
Yeah, how many random accounts were made just by this most recent incident of spam across the fediverse? If there was a new account made for each of those spam posts? Not even talking about alt or abandoned accounts. These numbers are gonna be off because of that stuff, right?
Although FediDB claims we have about 418k active
Nope. That’s 418k total. 38k active
That is just lemmy.
Just need some extroverts and we’ll be fine.
So now we have more users than the entire population of the United Arab Emirates (according to worldometers.info), and we could potentially reach the population of Tajikistan soon enough.
YakyakistanI had no idea this was a My Little Pony thing (never was a massive fan of the franchise)
Then you haven’t seen fan-made HoI4 mod Equestria at War. In that mod there is even country Stalliongrad with ponies like Caramel Marks and Fire Angel.
Wow. That’s some pretty insane stuff.
And by insane, I mean insanely cool.
Reddit wave number two incoming.
I can’t use the “there are dozens of us” joke anymore??
Soon we might even outnumber the Chinese and Israeli funded bots.
The porn bots have far and away the most rapidly growing ranks in the lemmyverse, for the record.
I blocked an ai porn community and that one little girl fetish community and now now porn doesn’t even show up on the first 5 or 6 pages of the instance I’m using. Whoever is operating the porn bots needs to expand their tastes, start sending the snu snu images.
Soon we might even outnumber the Chinese
I don’t see what sort of skin you have in this game that you need to insinuate that bot networks aren’t involved. The frequency of overly generic contextless pro-Jinping comments as well as the rate of upvotes and downvotes in some posts is not very human.
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I was just humorously snipping your comment
I’m pretty stoned lol
Ah, my bad dude, carry on.
There is legion of us
how many of them are dummy accounts or bots?
I’m not real
Maybe this’ll get 1million upvotes lol
Boop beep,
Welp. I sure didn’t win that betting pool.
I’m gonna feel really silly if anyone finds out my best guess was like, maybe, 1500.
This is probably more appropriate for c/fediverse
You’ll have to specify which server because lemmy still cannot show all posts on all server in /c/fediverse
In my opinion the biggest problem on lemmy
