• ZK686@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Feelings? What do you propose, that we allow the entire country to turn into areas like Oakland, Detroit, or Chicago? I mean, there has to be law and order. Are you proposing we “loosen” up on things, and just hope people will get nicer?

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      9 months ago

      What do you propose, that we allow the entire country to turn into areas like Oakland, Detroit, or Chicago?

      I’m willing to bet you’ve never left the suburbs of a Southern state.

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        9 months ago

        I live in California, I travel extensively for work. I’ve been to many major cities throughout the US… the inner cities are horrible. I’m thankful I live in a smaller city (not the suburbs) in California that 100% supports its police department, low crime rates, and community support for each other.

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      9 months ago

      Yes, feelings are when you think something works in a certain way without facts to back it up. Like the opinion that strict policing reduces crime. It’s a common opinion, but not one that is consistent with the facts.

      Do you think that Oakland, Chicago, and Detroit do not have police? Those cities have very harsh police departments and it’s not reducing crime. What those cities do have in common is a high poverty rate when geographically controlled and above average poverty rates for the US without even taking geography into account.

      What do I want? I want to make changes that comport to the facts of the world, not people’s feelings.