• crossmr@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    The cops were responding to a call about a break-in and when they asked for someone to come to the door they showed up with a gun. The cops aren’t going to sit there and wait for the person to start shooting at them. How disconnected do you have to be to think when the cops are banging on the door that it’s a good idea to grab a gun and rock up to the door with absolutely no warning?

    Did she at any point identify herself to the police? Did she yell out ‘I’m the home owner and I have a gun’?

    She might get a payout, but very unlikely that anything will happen to the cops given the situation.

    The right to bear arms is a lot like the right to free speech. It protects your right to do it, it doesn’t protect you from the consequences.

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      9 months ago

      No, she did not defy the laws of time and space and announce that she had a gun or that she was a homeowner in the tiny space of time between getting off the couch and getting shot by police who tell her to drop the gun and don’t give her the time to drop it.

      it doesn’t protect you from the consequences.

      Consequences like police telling you to drop a gun and then shooting you the second the last syllable enters their mouth? Because, again, I’m not sure why you’re expecting her to defy the laws of time and space.

      Also, why on Earth you think identifying yourself and saying you have a gun would help her when they didn’t help Philando Castile, I don’t know. Feel free to explain it. Because Castile said it in the middle of the day where the cops could clearly see what was going on and he was still murdered. Sorry, not murdered, treated fairly by the cops. His very fair treatment for complying with everything the police asked of him and telling them he had a gun.

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      9 months ago

      Luckily home invaders and criminals never claim to be police when attempting to gain entry.

      Otherwise, that might mean you’re just a gigantic douchebag.

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        9 months ago

        They broke a window to get into their place and a short time later someone showed up and banged on the door claiming to be police. There is also a giant window right there she could look out and see it’s the police. Try to project less.

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          Funny that you keep ignoring the whole part where the police started shooting either right in the middle or just after telling her to drop her weapon, giving her no time to drop her weapon.

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            9 months ago

            I’m not ignoring that part. You’re ignoring the part where she could have clearly identified the police through the window and realized that in today’s climate it might not have been a good idea to carry a gun towards the police.

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              Ah, so the police were in the right because she did something that, again, was 100% legal, but was not a good idea in your opinion.

              Weird, because that doesn’t sound like something that makes the actions of the police defensible. At all.

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          You should consult ChatGPT before using terms you aren’t familiar with. Shit, a quick Google search could have showed you what projection actually is, and isn’t.

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        I don’t even think that’s relevant. She was inside her home. The gun was her property. She had it legally. She should not have to announce that she is holding her legal property inside her own home, even if it is a gun.

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          9 months ago

          Exactly. This is TEXAS in AMERICA. She has the right to walk around her property with a personal firarm.

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            9 months ago

            they’re not very good marksmen. i think although both officers reloaded, only managed to land one bullet in the victims leg.

            it’s embarrassing for the police for many reasons

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              Makes you think, maybe if they’d dumped those mags at a range instead of into someone’s home, they could use fewer bullets overall. Then again, if they were properly trained, they would have actually killed this woman.

              What an awful situation, where it’s literally better for officers to be worse marksmen

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      The cops aren’t going to sit there and wait for the person to start shooting at them.

      That’s what they do in countries where non-criminals aren’t afraid of the police, and they seem to do much better both in terms of staying safe and keeping the citizens safe.