Christian nationalist North Carolina Republican Lt. Governor Mark Robinson, currently the leading candidate for the GOP nomination for governor, launched an attack on transgender women years after the Tar Heel State’s last GOP governor cost the state millions – and possibly billions – of dollars, and cost him his political career over the very same issue.
“We’re going to defend women in this state,” vowed Robinson, according to WUNC, at a campaign stop earlier this month. “That means if you’re a man on Friday night, and all the sudden on Saturday, you feel like a woman, and you want to go in the women’s bathroom in the mall, you will be arrested — or whatever we got to do to you.”
“In campaign speeches in recent weeks,” WUNC added, “Robinson suggested that people who previously identified as male should be ‘arrested’ if they go in a women’s bathroom. Instead, he suggests they should ‘find a corner outside somewhere’ to relieve themselves.”
In a different campaign speech Robinson said, “if you are confused, find a corner outside somewhere to go. We’re not tearing society down because of this.”
Again, the problem is in plain sight - CHRISTIAN NATIONALIST.
Only a CHRISTION NATIONALIST would say and push for this shit.
We really need private restrooms. Some stores are going to large numbers of single-user, or family, restrooms. They tend to be very nice.
I don’t think my stance helps Trans rights, but it does help with human dignity.
I think it will help as a side effect. And I agree. I really hate men’s rooms that are set up like a trench on one end or a big trough. And very few American stalls go anywhere near the floor for whatever reason.
I’d like to be able to relieve myself in peace, etc. I don’t want to talk to anyone else, or see someone else hanging brain.
Also, if most restrooms would solve the door problem, too. Far too many stupid setups where you wash your hands, then have to PULL on a door handle everyone is touching, with no trashcan nearby.
Then piss and shit on him in public. That’s outside, right?
Can we just let gender-neutral toilets be the default so we can all stop worrying this? The fact that the stranger shitting next stall over may or may not have a penis is not a problem. Having to scrape turds off my shoe because someone followed this guy’s advise and shat on the sidewalk makes it my problem.
THIS! Every mother fucker concerned about this needs to be shipped off to Sweden to see how it’s done.
Here in the US you get one giant communal room with crappy metal dividers blocking most, but not all, direct line of sight with the toilets.
Over there, you find a small hallway with several doors, and behind each door is a small private bathroom. You can change clothes, brush your teeth at the sink, put something on your phone with sound, or be messy/loud/smelly and it doesn’t affect anybody else or make you self conscious.
(Sweden is my example because that’s the last country I’ve traveled to in a long time)
maaaan i honestly kinda hope they can just over themselves. as someone who has cleaned toilets, i kinda don’t want gender neutral toilets. i don’t want them all to be as disgusting and horrible as women’s bathrooms. most men don’t know how good they have it with the currently segregated bathrooms…
I used to have to clean toilets at a banquet facility… my God the women’s restroom looked like a war room every goddamn morning. We drew straws on that task. Who the hell just slaps their pad onto the side of the wall when there is an empty receptacle right there for them…
Thanks for bringing back that PTSD.
They’re NOT worried about it. They’re using trans people as a boogieman to scare morons. That’s it. They’re trying to make idiots worried to create an excuse to do bad things, not worried themselves.
These people are EVIL in every sense of the word, and I’m not religious. They are despicable people that want to do bad things to those they don’t like, and they’re creating room to do those bad things.
That wouldn’t accomplish what they want to accomplish, which is to make trans people a scapegoat they can use to rile up simple-minded voters.
For the people who are concerned about pervs taking advantage of it (which is the only trans-bathroom opposition stance I even REMOTELY understand) a better way to solve the problem would be changing our public restrooms from the equivalent of pasting 3 sticky notes over a porn mag. Like seriously the only reason anyone is okay with door gaps I can fit my fuckin hand through is because they seem to forget that perverts can be gay, too.
Mandate floor-to-ceiling walls and doors that actually FIT and LOCK RELIABLY and I’m sure far fewer people would care (except for the whackjobs, obviously)
Arent most bathroom stalls like that outside the US? The only reason ours are like that if memory serves me right is because of inherited designs from the 1800s.
From what I’ve seen, yes. It drives me insane that we still have to deal with it when all other 1st world countries don’t, but I guess there are a number of things I could say that about
The real story here is that North Carolina Lt. Governor Mark Robinson is pro-public urination. Never realized that was an official GOP platform.
Ted Cruz is in favor, but that’s just because he likes the warm feeling between his legs.
Gee, I wonder what he was implying with that “arrest you…or whatever we got to do to you”
Instead, go piss outside… which is also a crime that will allow the cops to arrest you… you know, or whatever they have to do.
Edited because I misquoted the guy using proper grammer and syntax. I’d hate for anyone to mistake him for being educated or intelligent.
He’s looking for some sort of final solution
We’re not tearing society down because of this.
Apparently where we all pee is a foundational aspect of society?
yeah it fucking is. People used to straight up shit in a cup and throw it out the window. Nowadays we don’t even let dogs shit in the street.
Nowadays we don’t even let dogs shit in the street.
Seattle: Am I a joke to you?
A person who looks and lives as a woman going to the fully enclosed place, equipped with indoor plumbing, all the other people who look and live as women go to for the purpose of pissing in private is a far cry from throwing buckets of shit out a window onto the street.
That being said, this story does make me want to throw some buckets of shit somewhere.
Try going out for a weekend and not using a bathroom outside your house. If you enter a bathroom, imagine every person staring at you in curiosity or disgust. Imagine getting hastled and yelled at or assaulted for being in the “correct” washroom because you have a beard but have XX chromasomes. Imagine the cops being called on you. Better hurry and do your business fast and flee the scene because if they catch you they might arrest you, fine you or force you to “prove” your genetalia match what’s on your driver’s licence or ask tone deaf invasive questions about your medical history. If they are bigots they might call you slurs or just arrest you anyway to try and run you out of the community.
Spend a month never using a public restroom. Watch as your world shrinks to being basically just your house as any legthy trip outside requires precise timing so you won’t need to take a shit somewhere risky or perhaps enlist a a friend instead to serve as chaperone and defence to help keep you safe.
How and where we dispose of our waste is actually quite foundational to society. It shapes the layout of our cities, the spaces where we go, our life expectancies and how we spend our time.
Who is gonna fund the bathroom gender police?
I mean, North Carolinans.
That means if you’re a man on Friday night, and all the sudden on Saturday, you feel like a woman, and you want to go in the women’s bathroom in the mall, you will be arrested
Or if you’re a man one year and you take hormones and get surgery and dress like a woman for the following 10 years they’ll still arrest you for going in the women’s bathroom.
These dumbass comments should show everyone that these politicians don’t even try to understand the situation. They are reactionary, emotional, and bigoted; they act in service of their bigotry and don’t care who they hurt.
He’s not even being reactionary or emotional. It’s way more cynical than that. He’s simply trying to score political points to morons who are bigoted, reactionary, emotional, and don’t try to understand the situation.
Edit: I could be wrong, he may really just be a simple bigot
My current belief is that this guy is a True Believer.
In general my read in the situation is that attacking trans people is a losing issue, and True Believers are trying to change that. I don’t think a cynical office chaser can watch people who run on this shit get pasted again and again and still think it’s a winning strategy.
As a trans North Carolinian, I die inside a little bit every time this bigoted shit-heel opens his mouth 🙃
The question is do I vote in the Republican primary against Robinson or vote for the candidate that I like on the Dem ticket?
I feel like voting in the Dem primary has more potential to do good. I think the Republican alternatives to Robinson would do the same things as him but quieter. And I don’t think he’s got serious competition in the primary
I’m sorry friend. We are going to wallop him with votes this fall. I’ve been creeped out many a time by a republican man but never by a trans woman in the bathroom
North Carolina, breaking the mold in dumbasses.
Home sweet home.
So “not tearing society down” means piss or shit on the street instead of in a toilet? Am I understanding correctly?
I also love that the thing that’s going to finally bring this society to a collapse is unisex bathrooms. You know, the same kind you have in your house.
The vast majority of toilets in the world are all-access. When you do see segregated restrooms, guess what you’ll find inside? Most of the Men’s toilets and all of the Women’s toilets are inside individually-enclosed rooms with lockable doors.
My philosophy on this issue is that one picture of a restroom door at some establishment that says “Whatever, just wash your hands.”
@aeronmelon @ButtCheekOnAStick
Even urinals, if not eliminated completely out of lack of need, can be blocked off from visibility and should be anyways. I don’t like urinals where other men can see my junk, and few of those remain anymore for good reason.
I’ve literally walked out of restrooms with no dividers or space between urinals. I don’t need a stranger’s piss splashing on me.
Wonder how he’d feel about being told the same thing, but because of his skin color.
Some people are quite dense.
Dudes a textbook “pharisee” christian. Just look at the “personal life” portion of his wiki.
Robinson attributed the beginning of his interest in American conservative politics to his reading of a book by Rush Limbaugh, after which he “found out that was conservative and always had been.”
Anyone who gets their political philosophy from Rush Limbaugh is a dipshit who wants to be lied to or a grifter.
The very same Rush Limbaugh who denied smoking causes cancer and who died of lung cancer caused by smoking.
Cancer still sucks ass, but sometimes? Sometimes it’s ok.
“I read Rush Limbaugh’s book and discovered that I was in fact Uncle Ruckus!”
I just did that. Dude is off the hook. I don’t think there’s anyone he doesn’t hate or impugn, to the point that he is literally a one-man caricature of everything GOP – including having paid for a woman’s abortion. This ONE guy:
Anti-gay
Anti-trans
Anti-semite (repeatedly and openly, ad nauseam)
Supports “white pride” saying it is not racist (!!!)
Regularly engages in hate speech
Joined in the Obama “birther” drama
Called Michelle Obama “a man” and uses other derogatory terms for women
Uses racist and ethnic slurs regularly (against Chinese, Native Americans, even African Americans)
Holocaust denier
Nazi and fascism defender
Anti-Muslim
Covid denier
Anti-science (wants to remove it and social studies from schools)
Wants to abolish state board of education
Pro school vouchers
Mocked Pulse and Parkland shootings and survivors
Pro Moms for Liberty
Climate change denialist
Campaign finance fuckery
Multiple bankruptcies
Lied about his taxes (and got caught)
Paid for an abortion (says now it was for his wife, lol)Seeing as how Wikipedia only hits the highlights, it makes you wonder about what they left out. Your comment gets my “Most Polite Understatement of the Year” vote.
This person, specifically. Been following this twit for some time. I’m sure his mother loves him. I guess.
The sad thing is that his right to use the bathroom is protected.
However, there is absolutely nothing saying we can’t accuse him of being a transwoman and denying him the bathroom.
Because tHaT’s FrEe SpEaCh
Let’s not treat being trans as an insult.
I often think about this, but I think it sends the wrong message — that your gender is a privilege you can lose, and other people can willingly respect or not. As much as I hate these people, I don’t wanna detract from the trans community’s comfort zone if that makes sense. Weaponizing pronouns and gendered language only stoops to the low low level of right wingers
This non-issue is still getting brought up?
