• GooseFinger@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    You can’t trust Amazon reviews either though.

    • Sellers frequently farm good reviews by including cards in their packages that state “give us a 5 star review and get a full/partial refund!”
    • Sellers update their listings with good reviews with different pictures, descriptions, etc. which effectively creates a different listing while carrying over a large review count.
    • Amazon doesn’t allow reviews after 30 days (?) from purchase, so items poor durability will not have that reflected in their reviews

    It’s a damn shame, but between this broken review system and their incredibly low quality items and quality control, they’re not worth the money or headache to use. Especially since most of their products are no name Chinese garbage that are exclusively available on Amazon. They’re basically Wish, Tubi, or Alibaba.

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      Sellers frequently farm good reviews by including cards in their packages that state “give us a 5 star review and get a full/partial refund!”

      I order A LOT off Amazon and I have never gotten one of these, I’d know because I would absolutely do this. I’ve seen “Please leave a review” card but never with a promise of a refund

      Sellers update their listings with good reviews with different pictures, descriptions, etc. which effectively creates a different listing while carrying over a large review count.

      Can confirm, I’ve seen this, but I thought it was Amazon themselves for some reason lmao

      Amazon doesn’t allow reviews after 30 days (?) from purchase, so items poor durability will not have that reflected in their reviews

      I don’t think that’s true, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen reviews from people months after they ordered it

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        9 months ago

        I’ve gotten cards that offer a free product for a good review, and cards that offer a gift card, but not an actual refund. I’ve been offered refunds to take down my bad reviews.

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            9 months ago

            I’ve reported it once. I was emailed about 8 times from different email addresses with very similar text asking me to take down a bad review and they would refund me. A lot of asking for sympathy, we’re very small and a bad review is so devastating, blah blah. All the refund offers were a little more than what I paid.

            After 3 requests I replied with something akin to, “okay, you say you’re trying to improve your product. I want something that works. How about instead of a refund, you send me an improved item, and if it works I’ll give a good review.” And they said they couldn’t. (Of course not, they’re just retailing stuff from some factory and they have zero say in development.)

            I didn’t reply, and over the next few weeks I got the rest of the emails from them. So I reported it, sent Amazon screenshots and such. I haven’t looked but I assume they were given the heave ho. They probably just renamed themselves and restarted. But they didn’t email me again.

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          9 months ago

          Me too, for several purchases. I’ve never followed through with it though. I’d report them if I felt it did something.

          • UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works
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            9 months ago

            I takes like 2 minutes to report something. The fact that you can’t be bothered to report shady practices just allows them to run rampant. Even if you think it does nothing, why not just try to make the world a little better? It may actually change something

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      9 months ago

      Yeah I agree you can’t immediately trust the star rating, and you really need to read through the reviews to find the authentic ones. Even the bad reviews can’t always be trusted (I see a lot where folks complain about a product and go on to explain how their own idiocy or lack of knowledge led to the failure). I’ve actually noticed several lately that explicitly point out they were paid reviews so at least some folks are being honest about it. Usually when I read reviews I’m looking for more specific information, like when checking for a log cart recently I saw complaints that a small wheel size led to tipping. It would be nice if ebay had a more extensive and visible review system in place, but I’ll take what info I can find.

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        9 months ago

        Yeah, I’ve bought a few products that I had reservations on based on some bad reviews, and then when I got and used the item it was immediately obvious the reviewer didn’t read the instructions or try to troubleshoot in any way.

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        9 months ago

        It’s such a shame. In it’s heyday there was a time where a five star review and more than a hundred reviewers consistently meant something was just awesome. I would sometimes buy stuff I didn’t need if a came across this combination jist because I knew I would end up with something cool. Not anymore ; now I’m skeptical of every single review.

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      9 months ago

      I got hit by the updated pictures and product problem you described recently. Used the “buy again” for a silicone set of wipers for my car (those last for years instead of the 2 seasons you get out of the rubber garbage the companies push). Rain x had updated the product to the latter one to make more money with the reviews of the older long lasting one on the inferior product. Had to return and buy from elsewhere. I can’t trust the “order again” functionality and at this point, Amazon and the companies there any longer (since they used the process to mislead customers).

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      9 months ago

      Honestly, at this point, you can barely trust reviews anywhere. They’ve all been corrupted to some degree, and LLMs are going to make them exponentially worse.

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      9 months ago

      My favorite part is looking at the rating and seeing that all the 1-4 star reviews are missing. Sure, the product has 1.7 stars, and, sure, Amazon requires you to write a review with your rating, but somehow only the people who rated it five stars left reviews 🤔