“I’m STILL not standing for this divisive garbage. One nation. One anthem.”
But kneeling during the national anthem was such utter disrespect that players should be fired?
God. These people are insufferable.
She forgot the “ein Volk and ein Fürer” bit of the phrase. I’m sure it was just a minor oversight.
But kneeling during the national anthem was such utter disrespect that players should be fired?
Yeah, cause that was the good Christian White People anthem, not the evil BLM Antifa Communist Hate-American anthem.
Every complaint they make has a big old exception hole that they jump through.
Let’s not forget that Kap got that suggestion from a Soldier. These asshats don’t bother with context or nuance, it’s all just too woke
Bruh I got into such an intense argument with my parents because I defended the BLM protests. They came at me hardcore for “violence” and “destruction of property”. I asked them what the hell protestors were supposed to do to draw attention to their cause, and they told me that they would have respected a “peaceful protest”.
I then pointed out the fact that Colin Kaepernick’s career still hasn’t recovered, and that they themselves haven’t watched an NFL game since then…so no, they wouldn’t. My dad then of course whipped out his favorite “insult”: “Fucking Liberal”, and then proceeded to tell me that I have no respect for the flag.
The inability for them to think critically is absolutely astounding.
The inability for them to think critically is absolutely astounding.
They’re coming from an emotional place. They feel things and scramble for words to express it. You can’t use facts with someone who doesn’t care about them. It’s all emotion.
They came at me hardcore for “violence” and “destruction of property”.
Same as it ever was.
Nobody question how much of that damage was caused by squad cars plowing through pedestrian traffic and beanbag rounds crashing through store fronts. Nobody ask why there’s a cop’s night stick protruding from your windshield.
Its those damned violent extremist protesters, I tell you.
proceeded to tell me that I have no respect for the flag
Hey, listen. Maybe if the price of toilet paper hadn’t risen so quickly, you’d be right. But I respect the shit out of some cheap disposable material when I’m in a tight spot.
It sounds like they just want to be mad at black people
Kapernick’s day has long passed because of this. But I think the base issue was that he wasn’t good enough as a player to get away with it. For example: Mahomes would get a pass.
The NFL is replete with examples of them turning a blind eye to a player’s actions IF they are good enough. See: DUI and domestic abuse cases against players. Like say Deshaun Watson…
I’ve made that same argument so many times. Weaselly maga jackasses can’t even stay consistent with their own tortured logic.
Family is the worst when it comes to this stuff. Mine is all military, it is fucking WILD to me to hear all the old grunts who’d kill a commie for being red back when we were in a Cold War…now they’re telling me why this orange guy says the truth. Propaganda is a hell of a drug
It’s really wild to me, tbh. The military is what made me as Progressive as I am. My father served as well during Desert Storm in the USMC. He traveled around too. Yet I grew up in an extremely conservative household.
I wonder what yours says when trying to reconcile their own cognitive dissonance. It wasn’t that long ago that we were actively against Russia FFS,
My dad did 4 in the navy and got out chillin on ships and seeing some places, I haven’t talked to him for a long time cause he burned that bridge in other traditional shitty family ways,. Over covid out of the blue he commented on Facebook on one of my posts that protestors aren’t a problem if we shoot them, and that I’m “a pussy lib who hates America.”
I’m 100% with the VA for injuries sustained in an IED blast. ^(and he knows that)
Bruh, I am so fucking sorry that not only does your father seem uncaring in general (going off the “traditional shitty family ways” comment), but the fact that he completely disregarded the very real sacrifice you endured for the United States in general sounds like the most unbelievably frustrating and demoralizing thing ever. I’ve been fortunate enough to never deploy to a combat zone (all of my deployments have been to friendly zones), and I cannot imagine what you’ve been through, and how you’re contending with a family member disregarding it. I hope you have all the support in the world my dude!
Fucking snowflakes lmao
FUCK MAGA. Every single one of them can fuck right off. They are babies, snowflakes, mouth breathing morons. They can’t think for themselves, they have to be told how to feel. I wish these lemmings would walk out into the ocean and feed the sharks.
Hey now, maybe don’t insult the lemmings on Lemmy?
People on Lemmy are just as bad.
You forgot racist too
They said MAGA already
That’s a big one too.
They’re worthless traitor filth. A waste of carbon.
They want to be Russia so bad airdrop them over Russia. 🤷
No chutes though, save the tax dollars.
They DO hate federal spending.
The sharks don’t want 'em. 🤮
The Star-Spangled Banner is pro-slavery shit. No wonder MAGA loves it.
What doesn’t send them into a meltdown? It’s almost like they’re the things that melt easily that they’re so fond of calling everyone else.
Cheeses? Do they melt like various cheeses? Mmmm cheeses.
That would at least explain the saggy orange thing they worship. lol
Damn you its time for brie.
Just like their bigoted positions on LGBTQ+ rights. Like, nobody is forcing you to identify as one. It’s literally as respecting someone to be called John instead of Johnathan.
Then righties go, “bUT I dONt lIkE tHaT nAMe!”
So much for individual freedumb I guess.
They don’t call America a melting pot for nothing ;)
They got upset by an energy savings change on Xbox, lmao
Old enough to remember when they went berserk over florescent light bulbs.
Old enough to remember when they lost their minds, because Obama suggested they check their tire pressure.
CFLs were kinda shit tho. I’m so happy LED became standard.
The mercury was bad
LEDs are definitely an improvement on an improvement. But I’ll never get why people got angry at bulbs that were cooler, brighter, and cheaper by life expectancy than their old filament bulb counterparts.
Reactance. They didn’t feel like they had a choice. CFLs were different and buzzy and the color was off.
Reactance. They didn’t feel like they had a choice.
Only because they weren’t a sizable market share.
CFLs were different and buzzy and the color was off.
Engineering problems that were solved within a few iterations. But by then LEDs that were better and cheaper were hitting the market and the argument became moot.
Now my biggest problem with modern light bulbs is the absurd market-ups relative to what they cost everywhere else on the planet.
My favorite part was how they kept mentioning the sign language interpreters and then never showing them again. Like, give them a picture-in-picture or something. Otherwise, what’s the point?
I’m old enough to remember when shows used to have ASL interpreters in a little window. All the time. But I haven’t seen it much since the 80s.
Garrett Morris was the best sign interpreter of all time.
Agreed.
For the uninitiated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwSh0dAaqIA
We switched to closed captions over the course of the 90s. Irl events still use terps but using then on screen is now a specific choice. Usually the only times you’ll see ASL on screen these days is presidential addresses and shows that make a point to cast signers for Deaf characters
I have a question about this, if anybody can help me out. Are Deaf and Hard of Hearing people generally fluent in English (at a similar rate to the general population)? I’ve heard anecdotes about Deaf people who only know ASL, little to no English, but I don’t know how common that actually is. Mainly curious about the US.
I know ofc it’s more complicated than that (ASL isn’t the only sign language used here, and English isn’t the only spoken language, not all Deaf/HH people use sign language, etc.), but I’m just trying to get an idea of the big picture. Like when it comes to TV, are closed captions generally considered ‘accessible’ by the Deaf community?
Apologies if that didn’t make much sense, I had trouble wording it.
So it depends a lot on age, location, and severity of hearing loss. First Deaf and deaf aren’t the same thing. Capital D Deaf means culturally Deaf regardless of severity of hearing loss. Someone can be hard of hearing and Deaf and someone who hears worse may not be. Hoh and deaf people who aren’t Deaf usually are either late deafened or were mainstreamed (basically given hearing aids and usually not taught sign). Little d deaf implies hearing loss severe enough that it would require yelling to have an unaided verbal conversation (not precise but it’s generally accurate).
So for starters, if you grew up with the internet you’re probably fluent in written language, probably English. Unless you’re from a time and place where hearing people weren’t literate you’re probably literate as a deaf person. And to my knowledge there are no widely adopted sign language written forms beyond all caps words in language common to area with sign syntax. That’s why when you see Deaf people struggling with verbal languages it’s usually issues of spelling or syntax not vocabulary. But there’s also fingerspelling. There are a lot more words than signs. Common words quickly get a sign, but shit you don’t have to express face to face often to another Deaf person like professional jargon, you just spell it out.
But think about the 80s-90s in America. People who didn’t learn to read in school were still around. Especially if the system didn’t really care and their parents were illiterate. Even now there are people who can read but not at speaking speed. Captions are fine now, it’s like English to the Dutch. You’ve been using it in entertainment at least partly your whole life. But when it was a language someone half bothered to teach you at ten not so much
Thank you for your response!
Wow, yeah, I hadn’t even considered what difference the internet would have made. Way too often I forget to think about history in its greater context.
And to my knowledge there are no widely adopted sign language written forms beyond all caps words in language common to area with sign syntax.
Not as far as I know, either. About a year ago I learned about a ministry group that translated the entire Christian bible into ASL and made an app where you could watch the videos. I don’t remember the name, but it was cool to learn about. (IIRC, that project was what got me caught up on this question in the first place, lol.)
When you say ‘sign syntax,’ does that mean the same thing as gloss? For example:
YESTERDAY, HOME IX-me STAYI see it used all the time as a tool for English -> ASL students (of which I am one, lol), but it’s never crossed my mind to wonder what ways it is (and what ways it isn’t) used by the Deaf.
If you don’t mind me asking, are you or someone in your life Deaf? Just curious, since it sounds like you’re more informed than the Average Joe. :)
Yeah there’s a thing where Christians like for their texts to be in every language. It’s probably a lot more of that than anything. ASL was developed by nuns IIRC. It’s definitely not like Plains Sign Language which began as a trade language and eventually developed for the deaf. For as long as modern people of European descent have had sign language we’ve had access to Jesus in it.
I’d give more context but my asl is shit. I don’t really sign beyond insulting the hearing. I’m third generation mainstreamed. (Yeah my great grandparents, grandparents, and parents were all convinced not to teach their children sign language by the experts of the time). And yeah that more or less answers two paragraphs. I’ve been wearing hearing aids since childhood and my mom, grandma, and sister all also have my degenerative hearing loss.
I grew up with captions on the tv in the 90s except when my father was watching with us (he hates captions, and I’ll acknowledge they did suck 25 years ago, just less than not hearing sucked). And in early adulthood I went on a journey of self discovery and community discovery of embracing my deafness but I still need to find the time and energy to commit to asl learning
I imagine widespread adoption of closed captioning has reduced the need for ASL interpreters on TV.
That makes sense.
And just off camera we have sign interpreters. We wont show them but they are there
close-up of lips so the hearing impaired can lip read
Freeze those lips!
I imagine those are more for people in the stadium. The people watching it on TV have closed captioning.
My wife said the same thing during the game lol
Former Arizona Senate candidate Kari Lake responded to a picture showing her sitting down during a performance of the hymn at last year’s Super Bowl. Lake said on X, formerly Twitter, on Sunday: “I’m STILL not standing for this divisive garbage. One nation. One anthem.”
If she really thought that she’d stand the fuck up.
“Me either!!!”, added Greg Abbott
Oh, so if she wasn’t standing, was she kneeling then? Is it ok for them to kneel during the national anthem now?
Why do you morons keep granting the MAGA premise by calling at the black national anthem? I swear to God what is it with with liberals leftist Democrats whatever accepting right wing terminology? It’s never a good idea.
Premiered in 1900, “Lift Every Voice and Sing” was communally sung within Black American communities, while the NAACP began to promote the hymn as a “Negro national anthem” in 1917
Oh well if someone said it over 100 years ago then clearly it’s still exactly as accurate it is today. I mean there’s no way I could sit here and show you multiple proclamations by groups in 1917 that I wouldn’t think hold true today but we could play that game. Surely in 1917 the age of Woodrow Wilson there were no uncomfortable disturbing proclamations made about America.
Also can someone please tell me why the NAACP has the ability to declare a national anthem? I must have missed that in the Constitution.
Who decides what is the “correct terminology”?
It’s a phrase coined by the NAACP, not MAGAts.
Just put your shovel away.
Also can someone please tell me why the NAACP has the ability to declare a national anthem? I must have missed that in the Constitution.
Dude, you can hear a song that moves you tomorrow and call it the njm1314 national anthem if you want to. And if enough people like what you have to say about it, they might start calling it that too. I’d hope none of those people think that means you have the ability to “declare a national anthem” because it would be about the stupidest thing to complain about.
I mean there’s no way I could sit here and show you multiple proclamations by groups in 1917 that I wouldn’t think hold true today but we could play that game.
You incorrectly implied the origin of the phrase and were corrected. No one has to call it that. You don’t have to call it that. No one is forcing you to call it that, nor demanding you stand when it is played, nor will be angry if you don’t call it that. Some people, not just maga, still call it that. So you can rage at 100 years of some people voluntarily calling it that, or you can just exercise your freedom to not call it that and move on.
Any chance you are as angry about the maga tantrum as you are about this song?
I bet none of these dingbats complained when we were playing “God Bless America” everywhere after 9/11. MAGA shouldn’t be the gatekeepers of patriotism.
They aren’t. They think they are patriots, but in fact they are just nationalists. Nationalism is a gross perversion of patriotism. Under the guide of loving their country, it really just stands for hating everyone else.
Doesn’t take much to rile up the Trumpanzees.
There are so many snowflakes that you can trigger an avalanche by sneezing.
Was this sung instead of the national anthem or was it sung in addition to the anthem? The article is garbage.
They sung it before the anthem. It might have been after Post Malone did America the Beautiful. So it’s not even like Lift Every Voice was the only additional patriotic song they did.
It’s literally just a way for the NFL to fill air time before the game starts and get people tuned in longer for commercials.
It’s nice for Lift Every Voice to have been sung, but if anyone thinks the NFL gives a shit more than selling ad time and tickets, they’re lost in the sauce.
It’s not worth getting upset over one way or the other.
So a bunch of people sang songs before the anthem and one of them happened to be a song that black people like. Sounds about right.
what is this from?
Megg Mogg and Owl by Simon Hansellman. I think that panel is from the covid comics they made for Instagram but I don’t really remember. That series was called Crisis Zone.
My nightmares
Looks like an excellent setup for a new Dimension 20 season.
I mean really, what at this point won’t send a dumb ass MAGA person into toddler tantrum territory?
Trump becoming dictator?
Hope they like potatoes
I first heard Lift Every Voice and Sing in high school (which was back in the 90s, I’m old) and I liked it, much better than the official national anthem. It acknowledges the atrocities of the past while being hopeful of the future instead of the usual “rah rah our country is the greatest” crap.
Too much religion at the end for my taste, but I really like the rest of it.
Agreed, but since there are multiple verses, the last one can simply be omitted according to preference.
But is it styled after a British drinking song? That’s the best thing about the current anthem.
Not even a very good one, at that!
I was doubtful right leaning media cared, but quite clearly it’s being heavily covered by such media.
https://ground.news/article/black-national-anthem-sends-maga-into-meltdown_c255a4