• Deceptichum@kbin.social
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      7 months ago

      I cant wait for the day after the election so lefties can shit on Biden rightfully and people stop pretending hes good.

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        7 months ago

        If that’s what you’re waiting for, then you really don’t have a grasp on the zeitgeist.

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          7 months ago

          We’ll see.

          Exact same thing happened last election on reddit.

          Everyone rallied around Biden, straight after it was back to shitting on him, I expect little different here if he wins.

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            7 months ago

            Sorry, can you please elaborate what you mean?

            • Are you saying Democratic supporters rallied behind Biden during the election, then got more critical of him once in office?
            • Are you saying it was right or wrong to do so?

            Personally I’ve always maintained that Biden is pretty average; but literally all I’m looking for during these days where rampant fascism and general bigotry is on the rise — and when our literal Democracy is on the line and trying to be actively thwarted by forces foreign and domestic — is stability. Average, stable sounds great relative to the guaranteed alternative. Such is the dichotomy we live with every election cycle.

            Yes, post-election when fascism may be averted, pressure rises from both sides: (1) From the left to try to compel Biden to greater action, and (2) Pure mudslinging from the right-wing propaganda machine. That’s par for the course and would be no different if Bernie himself was put in office.

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              7 months ago

              I want Trump to lose, I don’t care who or how that happens.

              Im saying many leftists went on about how good he would be etc, so as to not lose momentum snd afterwards they went right back to being more honest about how shit he is.

              All i want is the return to that truth, because then we can start pushing for the radical changes needed. Biden and lib dems cannot be “compelled”, they dont listen to the concerns of the people over corporate interests. The only solution is to get back to agitating for overthrowing the state and working on that goal.

              It’s not long now until this election diversion is over and we can focus on more pressing issues, so I’m excited.

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        7 months ago

        I have shit on Biden and Dems whenever I feel like it, I’m just not a useful idiot / paid propagandist trying to pretend Biden is a worse choice than Donald, so it’s pretty well received. Maybe try that.

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            I couldn’t say for you, but the person above you is ignoring Ukrainians while being hopping mad about Palestinians, as if Repubs would be ending that conflict? Oh, but, mind you, ending the conflict without doing anything remotely close to escalation towards WWIII, which he is also enraged about and claiming is beginning.

            Elsewhere in here he is sobbing on behalf of Flint, Michigan. Donald was present for four of those years he is crying about? Did he do any infrastructure bills or anything to assist? No, it was trillions in handouts to billionaires and dismantling the EPA.

            His thesis here is “both sides equally bad” and “Biden has become worse than Trump.” Demonstratively untrue. So I can say there’s a decent chance that person is a Repub cosplaying or some sort of paid propagandist.

            IDGAF if you like or hate Biden. I don’t think you should side with or defend that person. They are dishonest, possibly deliberately so.

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          7 months ago

          The short answer is Biden is pretty average at best, meaning I think most average presidents in his position and circumstances would’ve done similar things. He’s stable in that regard.

          But that’s better than above-average fascist.

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          7 months ago

          Define achieve?

          A lot of stuff was rebound from Covid lows and undoing Trump fuckery. He’s continued on with a lot of Obama’s policies and expanded on some.

          He campaigned on the status quo and that’s what he’s done, which is frankly not good because the status quo is exactly why the issues that existed in the first place exist.