• Feathercrown@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    You’re wrong, but you’re in good company. It’s a very counterintuitive effect. One technique that can be helpful for understanding probability problems is to take them to the extreme. Let’s increase the number of doors to 100. One has a car, 99 have goats. You choose a door, with a 1% chance of having picked the car. The host then opens 98 other doors, all of which have goats behind them. You now have a choice: the door you chose originally, with a 1% chance of a car… or the other door, with a 99% chance of a car.

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      9 months ago

      Oh that’s so weird. I get it from a proof perspective but it feels very wrong.

      My brain tells me it’s two separate scenarios where the first choice was 99:1 and after eliminating 98 there’s a new equation that makes it 50:50.

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        9 months ago

        The important thing is that the host will always show you a goat, meaning the only way the other door has another goat is if you just so happened to pick the car the first time.

        Take the situation to the extreme and imagine a hundred doors, and after you pick a door, the host opens 98 doors, all of them with goats behind them. Now which seems more likely, that you chose right the first time, or that the other door has the car?

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        Now you have 2 choices: the door you chose, or the only other door left. One has a goat and one has a car. That’s fifty-fifty.

        In your explanation, the door originally had a 1% chance, but after showing 98 goats, it has a 50% chance.

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          9 months ago

          No. Taking it to the extreme with 100 doors, your first pick was a 1% chance to get the car. The host then shows you 98 other doors that all have goats.

          What’s more likely? That you picked the right door when it was 100:1? Or that the other door is the one with the car?

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          The important thing is that the host will always show you a goat, meaning the only way the other door has another goat is if you just so happened to pick the car the first time.

          Take the situation to the extreme and imagine a hundred doors, and after you pick a door, the host opens 98 doors, all of them with goats behind them. Now which seems more likely, that you chose right the first time, or that the other door has the car?

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            9 months ago

            The host’s intentions are irrelevant. Numerically, there are only two choices. That makes it fifty-fifty.

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              You think that even in the hundred-door case? Test it. Hell, even test it in the 3 door case. It is empirically not 50%.

              If the host had an even chance to show you either door, you’d be right, but since the host always shows you a goat, the two events (picking a door and choosing whether to switch) are no longer independent, since if you pick a goat it forces the host to pick the other goat.