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    9 months ago

    Op is either a Chinese bot account or paid propagandist. We all hate late stage capitalism, but OP is trying to redirect that hate into censoring criticism of the Chinese Communist Party.

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      It’s not censorship to criticize slander. It’s not like I’m zipping their mouths shut, which would still be pretty nice anyway. I can’t “censor” anything I don’t have official control of.

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      Dehumanizing those critical of capitalist media lies and nonsense. “Everyone I don’t like is paid for!”

      I didn’t realize that we had capitalist bootlickers like you here. You aren’t a critic of capitalism if you slander and demean China, one of the strongest and only alternatives. I didn’t realize that latestagecapitalism was infested by neoliberal cracker nutcases from lemmy.world

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        “Maybe edit bomb the page?” Is what gives it away. You’re trying (and failing) to neoturf and mobilize, while presenting zero proof of anything you claim they do.

        The fact that you then label me a neoliberal, assume my race is white, and come from lemmy.world (all wrong) further proves that you only have ill intentions.

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          The page literally says that it agrees with the show, or “muh truth in television” that those who do business with the Communist Party of China never learn, even though by and large the CPC acts with intelligence, reason, forgives hundreds of billions of dollars in loans, is open to extended negotiations and has longer payback times and less interest than “loans” from capitalist nations.

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          The proof is in their words, specifically their lies and accusations.

          If the boot fits. You literally post in other lemmy.world affiliated instances.

          It’s like if TV Tropes had a page where they agreed with Fox News that Jewish people are evil, and if I pointed out how racist and stupid and wrong that is, and how it needs to be edited, you crackkker neoliberals would say “you must have ill intentions!”

          Keep your projections to yourself. It’s not ill intentions to stand up to racist neoliberal nonsense. Only a racist would say that. And furthermore, I never specified that you are white, though I’m 99 percent sure you are, to be a capitalist supporter, and based off you downplaying racism and reality. Crackerism is a mindset, not a race.

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              I guess I need to fucking spell it out for you simpletons. The show and tv tropes argue that China is a totalitarian dictatorship and that Chinese people are too stupid, greedy, or evil to understand it, or are all brainwashed zombies with no free will, intelligence, human spirit, drive or individuality, nevermind the fact that totalitarianism is an idea propogated by neoliberals to falsely equivocate socialism with fascism, and that brainwashing itself is a racist caricature of a very real but popularly dramatized process applied in completely different contexts.

              The TV Tropes page endorses almost all of the tropes of the show as being real, despite them being based on racism, lies, and debunked nonsense, such as the lie that China is imprisoning 10 trillion Ughyurs, despite the mountain of evidence contrary, like the fact that multiple organizations of Arabic/Islamic majority countries decry these allegations and support China’s alternate means of fighting terrorism by educating, deradicalizing and setting up therapeutic training centers and schools, enshrining the rights of Ughyur muslims and other ethnic and cultural minorities into law, documenting the experiences off Ughyur muslims that were saved by anti-poverty and anti-terrorism campaigns, and how most of these facilities are now shut down because China is conquering the issue of separatism peacefully rather than bombing civilians, China is hosting traditional Ughyur muslim ceremonies and festivities, protecting cultural artifacts in museums and textbooks, seeking approval and cooperation with Ughyur elders, mandating that Ughyur officials be part of official political bodies, and up until recently being very lax about child number limits for the Xinjiang Ughyur Autonomous Region, and the fact that the original sources for these genocide claims all date back to a sham study conducted by U.S. and Australian-financed “researchers” that only interviewed 64 people with little regard to methodology or sample size, using very leading questions, all relying on completely false allegations from a known Nazi-sympathizing German anti-semite christofascist named Adrian Zenz, and right-wing cults like Falun Gong and the ETIM that were funded by the exact same CIA cutouts that financed Ughyur muslim separatist supremacist terrorist groups all the way back to the 1960’s that eventually joined up with the Taliban and attacked China in the 1980’s-early 2010’s.

              I’m sure you’ll dismiss all of this as propaganda, even though even the U.S. government publically admitted it couldn’t find enough actual proof to confirm China of having Ughyur concentration camps, instead of deradicalization and vocational and alcohol and drug abuse rehabilitation centers.

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      It’s OK. This isn’t a nazi-controlled community, you don’t have to cloak yourself in plausibly deniable liberalism to not get banned.

      EDIT: Oh. You’re serious? Disappointing.

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        I had a similar conversation with someone on hexbear and they not only banned me, they blocked my entire instance.

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          Maybe it’s because you carry an air of neo-fascism around you, that might be a good thing to get checked. Also last time I checked programmingdev got defedded because their instance owner was publicly dying on the hill of transphobic hate. It’s beyond reasonable that any trans-positive instance wouldn’t want to have to engage with that kind of garbage.

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            Guess who benefit the most from people watering down the terms Nazi and fascist.

            You saw someone calling out a literal CCP shill, and immediately thought “he is fascist”.

            “Trans-positive” I’m sure trans-people live very happy lives in Russia and China. No forced conversion therapy or threats of violence anywhere .

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              Jesus fucking christ, you goddamn racist pricks never call the Chinese government by it’s proper name, and it arguably pisses me off more than your racism at this point, it’s called the CPC, not CCP. The CCP hasn’t existed for decades. Despite the Chinese translated name, in English it’s called the CPC. No amount of wishy-washy dick stroking will make the CPC the CCP.

              A literal CCP shill? As opposed to a figurative one?

              Finally, go fuck yourself. Even if I wasn’t supportive of the CPC, you’re 99 percent a white supremacist neoliberal capitalist bootlicker that thinks you better than the 1.4 billion Chinese citizens that overwhelmingly support their government and state of affairs, which is shown in numerous scientific studies and polls of different sources, all reaching similar approval ratings, so “they are all cowards or evil or brainwashed zombies” can be ruled out. Fundamentally wanting the CPC to be overthrown is racist, given that you want to dismantle what the over 90-ish percent of Chinese citizens like and support. But putting that argument aside, I don’t shill for anyone. Your brain is rotted from being spoonfed by capitalist white supremacist neoliberal media all your life. You claim to be anti-capitalist in your words, yet you don’t have an ounce of humility or reflection in your actions or attitude. You aren’t “calling out” anyway, you are being a racist capitalist douchebag.

              China is light years ahead of other neighboring countries in regards to trans rights, you would know that if instead of believing whatever Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post, New York Times, Breitbart, the Drudge Report tell you to think.

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              people watering down the terms Nazi and fascist.

              Literal nazi talking point. Apologize now or block & report. I won’t tolerate that shit and neither will the mods.

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                I dislike your racism but I give you a modicrum of respect for having a shred of decency to not tolerate transphobia. Edit: Sorry, I thought you were talking to me, not parapol. I thought you were on his side.

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                Watering down terms is a real thing, and you’re doing it. Now either own up to the fact that by doing so, you are helping nazis become accepted to society, or go cry to your mods and hide your ass behind a block, and pretend nothing happened.

                I am neither associated with nor tolerate any form of fascism whatsoever, and you’re trying your damn hardest to associate me with it because you are incapable of imagining that maybe you can be anti-fascist and anti-authoritarian at the same time.

                “Apologize now or block & report” is the biggest manchild comment I’ve ever heard on Lemmy, lmao.

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                  The only good fascist is a dead fascist and I will “water the definition down” way past the point to include you in it.

                  Thanks for ruining my day and making me feel like shit. Justice will come to you in due time.

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                    A death threat from a neoliberal, how unsurprising. Scratch a neoliberal, and a fascist bleeds.

                    I can now respond in return that I look forward to when the racist crakkker ass neoliberal western imperial order collapses under the weight of it’s fascist projecting contradictions, and that you enjoy being game-overed by a combination of white supremacist violence, war, disease, or suffering for 50 years as your country’s air becomes even shittier, and your lungs black from all the smoke, pollution, toxins, while you beg your bosses for a day off work.

                    Meanwhile, the East and Global South will rise up in revolt and begin laying the groundwork for establishing socialism. China will enjoy vastly improved living standards and technological progress, and clean air and fresh food and water, as it becomes a luxury in the west. And Chinese people will embrace further deepening socialism and actual democracy rather than capitalist dog and pony shows. I hope your last goddamn breath is you blaming China for not bowing down to your capitalist delusions.

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                    I am willing to make the bet that you are more fascist than me, therefore by your own statement, you belong on the list too.

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      Shut the fuck up crakkker. It’s not criticism, it’s blind lies and hatred. God forbid that someone stand up to racist propaganda. I guess MLK. Jr. was a Soviet agent then.