I disagree. It is the job of leaders to push for education, so that the people can be trusted to make correct decisions on their own. We currently have an issue with rising fascism at the hands of an under-educated working class, which is resulting in a violent backlash against academia and science, because education is being strategically cut by fascists.
Education, and building up parallel structures like networks of Mutual Aid, and mass unionization. Increasing taxation helps, but without parallel structures and an increasingly educated populace taxes are just money spent to continue fueling the Military Industrial Complex. Taxing with no real direction doesn’t actually help, you need both cause and action.
I already gave you specifics, like unionization. Voting is important, yes, but are you genuinely asking me for an entire actionable platform for you to implement in your daily life?
Read. Read as much as you can about as much as you can, but chief among those read about how to organize, protest, and cooperate outside the bounds of Capitalist structures.
Register to vote. Voting is important as loss prevention. It may be fairly useless at a federal level for getting actual change, but it is great for loss prevention at the federal level, and meaningful change can absolutely happen at the local level.
Organize. Unionize your workplace, set up a community garden, volunteer for your local Food Not Bombs, participate in developing FOSS, and more.
Reject proprietary software and try to source your goods from co-operatives and unionized workplaces, where possible.
Teach others. Try to use all you have learned to convince others to follow suit.
The original point of this convo was that you thought that it’s okay to use incorrect terms as long as it gets people to move, and my point is that it’s better to educate people so they can come to the correct conclusions by themselves, and can better make decisions in the future without relying on a benevolent party of individuals to tell them exactly what to think.
You then proceed to squirrel away and dodge every single point I make.
I can’t give you a phone number or a link without knowing where you work and what your workplace and position is. If you want the next best thing, the Industrial Workers of the World has resources for you: https://www.iww.org/. You can also go to the Anarchist Library: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/special/index and the Marxist Internet Archive: https://www.marxists.org/ if you want theoretical texts.
What’s your new way to squirrel out? Either admit that using the correct terms and educating people to be able to come to correct conclusions themselves is better than using incorrect terms deliberately, or answer why you think it’s better to try to guide people at each and every step, even if it puts way more work on the activists and results in a population out of touch with what is going on around them.
I disagree. It is the job of leaders to push for education, so that the people can be trusted to make correct decisions on their own. We currently have an issue with rising fascism at the hands of an under-educated working class, which is resulting in a violent backlash against academia and science, because education is being strategically cut by fascists.
“Tax the rich.” Anyone can understand that.
“Tax the rich” is woefully insufficient. A good start, but that’s it.
And what’s your starting point?
Education, and building up parallel structures like networks of Mutual Aid, and mass unionization. Increasing taxation helps, but without parallel structures and an increasingly educated populace taxes are just money spent to continue fueling the Military Industrial Complex. Taxing with no real direction doesn’t actually help, you need both cause and action.
A lot of generalities. How about something specific? Something people can do right now? You didn’t even mention getting people registered to vote.
I already gave you specifics, like unionization. Voting is important, yes, but are you genuinely asking me for an entire actionable platform for you to implement in your daily life?
You happy now?
Vague calls to ‘organize’ and ‘read’ aren’t specifics.
You talk about ‘organizing’ and don’t include anything like a link or a phone number. No training for people to create a Union.
Got it, you’re just trolling now.
The original point of this convo was that you thought that it’s okay to use incorrect terms as long as it gets people to move, and my point is that it’s better to educate people so they can come to the correct conclusions by themselves, and can better make decisions in the future without relying on a benevolent party of individuals to tell them exactly what to think.
You then proceed to squirrel away and dodge every single point I make.
I can’t give you a phone number or a link without knowing where you work and what your workplace and position is. If you want the next best thing, the Industrial Workers of the World has resources for you: https://www.iww.org/. You can also go to the Anarchist Library: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/special/index and the Marxist Internet Archive: https://www.marxists.org/ if you want theoretical texts.
What’s your new way to squirrel out? Either admit that using the correct terms and educating people to be able to come to correct conclusions themselves is better than using incorrect terms deliberately, or answer why you think it’s better to try to guide people at each and every step, even if it puts way more work on the activists and results in a population out of touch with what is going on around them.