I realised, that sometimes it is more like a different experience level. And some people forget it could be possible the asking person is an absolute newbie.
And most people in forums are there because they want to help, but they want to help on this one asked case and won’t teach the whole Linux universe, most people need years of experience for.
The good thing is, we can use AI for this nowadays, it won’t go mad if you are missing an elemental “you really should know, how this works” kind of error.
Yeah people need to find the startingpoint often.
But it is annoying if people ask stuff that is like a single web search, or throw out nonsensical myths that make no sense.
Especially on the GrapheneOS discuss really technical people like always help them, and I think this has to be very tiring
What happened to Dexter?
Yeah, I stopped asking questions about any problems years ago because of the cli bros and god forbid you tried to help and didn’t offer an “crowd approved” answer. It just wasn’t worth the effort. I just switched to searching for an answer on my own. It makes me pretty bad at solving problems sometimes/often times when I do have an issue, but I still manage to muddle through well enough for my own personal amusement.
Thankfully, unless you choose to walk a path of sackcloth and ashes, these days distros are pretty fool proof and don’t need much cli effort anymore. And the older I get, the less I want to bother with anything exotic with any distro I want to use. I just want something that works.
What do you want help with?
The only issue that has cropped up on my current release LM Cinnamon install, is I have added 2 extra storage devices added to a cheapie AWOW micro box. They are both easily recognized, (formatted Ext4), and are available through the file manager for use. One is an 250gb internal drive and the other is a MicroSD is a 128gb card in an external slot. And both show as extra storage and neither are available as bootable disks - only the usb ports allow that.
What I have found is, on boot the main drive shows up on the desktop and the smaller microSD card automagically also shows up and is available for use from there. But the 250gb added internal drive has never shown up on the desktop on boot until I open the file manager and click on it. When I do that, it appears on the desktop but locks out the microSD card shortcut/icon on my desktop, (still accessible through the file manager).
I’m not sure if this is an issue with LM or just how this Cheap, Cheerful, Chinese micro box has it’s firmware set up. I lean towards the firmware in the box myself, if so it probably isn’t fixable then. And honestly, this isn’t really a showstopper problem and more of a quality of life issue that isn’t all that difficult to work around - just use the file manage and it isn’t a problem. But it would awesome if all three desktop shortcuts played nice together.
Check your /etc/fstab if the disk is permanently mounted, it is likely not. As it can be mounted this doesnt sound like a firmware issue.
And yeah the disappearing thing is a Linux Mint issue and in general desktop icons and links are very Desktop-specific, as they replicate Windows behavior a lot.
Amen.
Jokes on you I trolled myself by being stupid and not asking for help when installing on the crap old pc I have and fucked myself over by bricking it
Really you actually bricked it? Have you tried a live system from a bootable USB and format the drive or something?
The thing is it works, just that other bootable drives don’t work, only this Linux drive, no live USBs not my old windows drive, nothing else works no matter what I Change in the bios
That sucks. If you remove the drive with
windowslinux I wonder if you could boot from a USB. Would be worth a tryYeah but I would need another drive to now install another os on, but yeah it might be worth giving a try
True, but that drive is booting right? It’s just no other drive will boot? I figured you could check if there’s an issue with the USB port. If it boots then it could be that drive is causing the issue, although that would be strange. You could get an adapter and reformat the drive that way and see if that fixes the issue.
Yeah you cant really brick a PC with software. You can lose whatever data ison the hard drive. but even that is likely recoverable
I did somehow manage to ruin an SSD when trying to set up dual booting. I couldn’t actually read the data off of it after whatever nonsense I did. After reformatting it a few times to no avail, I gave up on it.
I probably should have tried reinstallling the firmware on the SSD, but I had it at that point. Even so, the PC still worked. After convincing the computer to boot off of the original drive, I had no issues.
Short of a hardware fault, you cannot destroy an SSD no matter what you throw at it. Try resetting the partition table using gparted and you can use it for whatever again. The windows partition manager tends to not be reliable when dealing with removing wonky linux partitions.
Well it still works, it’s just that it’s “locked” to Linux, no matter what I change in the bios it refuses to boot anything else, live USBs, my old windows drive (since I installed it separately), nothing, only just that install of xubuntu, nothing else
I learnt this when trying to distro hop, that was like a few days after I installed, that was like in September of last year, I haven’t fixed (or bothered with) it since
Probably because linux hijacked the windows bootloader and overwrote it. if you remove all partitions from the drive with gparted or similar and fresh install, it will work. The windows data may also still be recoverable, depending on your situation, but doesnt sound like it’s important anyway. If you wanna be safe when experimenting with linux, use a seperate drive for it and disconnect all other hard drives until you know what you’re doing.
To clarify, if u decide to try again, make sure your bootloader is installed to the same drive as your OS and avoid using the same drive for two operating systems. And of course, make sure bios boota from the right device/efi mode.
Have you tried just popping the drive with Linux installed out? If you boot to a boot menu and select another boot device is it just like… “fuck you, no, we use Linux now”
Yup, tried just loading the windows drive inside and setting it in priority in bios (just in case), in the top left corner it just showed something along the lines of “Ubuntu - success” (don’t remember now since it was so long ago)
Whacky
Why would you tell people to run that command? You’re a bad person.
Also it’s just wrong advice, since you explicitly need
--no-preserve-rootfor it to work… /sJokes aside, please don’t troll anyone with things, that can have severe consequences. Yes, they should have a backup. Yes, they should know how to restore from it. Yes, they should have tested it prior. Yes, you shouldn’t blindly trust people online.
But even then: Assuming my backup works and I can easily revert the damage. Maybe I need to complete an assignment until tomorrow and just lost 1-2 hours because my PC was busy doing the restore? There’s always a high chance of collateral damage
if one would fall for this, do you really think that they know how to backup and restore backups?
don’t need
--no-preserve-rootif you use/*Sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/*will fix your disk?Sudo: command not foundIsn’t auto capitalization a bitch 🫠
Ok you made me spit out my drink. Good job.
You deserve points for creativity
Some people are really bad at empathy. They don’t actually, like, imagine the pain and confusion in the other person if they did unwittingly damage their computer. They’re thoughtless. That’s a lot of words to say “They’re kind of stupid.”
And some people do imagine the pain of the victim, and do it anyway. Those people should probably be on a watch list before they start killing small animals or shooting up a school.
It’s a joke dude, on my part, and I’m sure on OPs part.
it may be a joke answer, but then there are those described by the commentor who take joy and glee from it.
Yeah, but it’s posted in Linuxmemes, if it were posted anywhere else I would warn people about running the command.
It removes the french languagepack
Having moderated forums back in the day, I can answer to some of that motivation.
First, some people are just bullies. A sense of tribalism forms around bullies, who feel the need to act out and repeat the abuses they have endured. Hazing stems from this, too. Cruelty masked as “you should know better,” advice. Given too late.
Some have a smug sense of superiority, and want to keep it that way. Less smart people means they stay king of the mountain. Others are scared their own lack of knowledge will cripple them if they don’t keep the potential competition down. Insecurities drown out any sense of empathy.
Some people hate themselves so they punish others in retaliation. Like, trying to erase past cringe by making others hurt to even the score.
A few are sick of “the same fucking newbie questions again and again and again,” but still hang out in newbie forums for some reason.
the people who troll or make fun of linux beginners are the same people who wonder every year why desktop linux isn’t more mainstream
And 80% of these are on Lemmy, I mean put up a question or comment that how Linux is not helpful is simple tasks such as giving permissions to program without using command prompt , will get you downvotes/ you are idiot comments heavily.
Yeah it’s pretty bad
never had anything quite as bad, there are a lot of people commenting “JuSt SwiTcH tO LiNuX” and never answer when you explain how you’ve tried to switch but sim racing, CAD and many other things are way too complicated to get running reliably.
bash: command not found: lol
Tech forums in any sense.
If you’re tired of seeing the same questions, why are you here? You can just ignore them. But treating a newbie like an idiot for not knowing better just discourages people from getting into your thing and keeps you from meeting cool new people.
ESPECIALLY because a lot of these questions come from kids that literally haven’t had the chance to learn better yet. Just kindly point them where they need to go. It takes just as much time as telling them off.
This is why I like my Manjaro friends and neighbours.
Honestly, Manjaro community differs from place to place as well.
Russian Manjaro community didn’t go much far from Arch one. English, though, is very decent.
that being said… what’s a good website i can at least go to and learn some linux basics and progress to more advanced stuff? i’d at least want to check that out before i start bugging people…
i had the opportunity to take a class back in college but 18 yr old me couldn’t handle a 7am class and know-it-alls in the back always interrupting the teacher and trying to show off in class…
The best places I learned from were installing gentoo in a vm and separately linux from scratch for the more advanced stuff. Though I learn more from doing than reading personally
There are enty of books you can read. If you’re really interested in learning I suggest you may start learning how to write bash.
For the rest I really would say, that just try doing stuff. Try to set up a docker, or other stuff. Also you can go to already solved Problems and try to understand what the problem was and what they did to solve it.
Also: Just start trying to support people. Google(or any other Search Engine of your liking) is very useful for this. Even if you just find out what exactly the problem is, that helps.
thanks. i have a laptop i deliberately installed debian on… but that’s about it lol
i’ll take you up on the support suggestion too… i recently had to figure out why a unix server went down at work. luckily we had a set of scripts and commands archived from the manager that supported it before he left. all i did was just run them with a little bit of logic and context applied, but it forced me to poke around a bit and seeing what each command did. i was careful enough not to break anything but i found it quite interesting
I wish I could help people like this but I get really frustrated when they don’t understand something I say for the first time, or are generally bad with tech, and I don’t know how to get over it
Ok now type “touch /this”
And then hum the famous M C Hammer song.
I asked for help on the Discord server of LinuxServer.io and they were literally talking shit about me to each other while I was in the chat because I didn’t understand their utter garbage documentation for a Docker I was having trouble with, even with a CS degree.
discord 🗿
The best part of LSCR containers is that their Docker config is rather standardized.
The worst part is they haven’t figured out logging for like 75% of them.
Either that or you insult them for not knowing the answer already, tell them to google it (then why does this forum exist?) or get mad because they did know that their question had already been answered in a forum post in 2019.
