As the Republican Party’s blockade of aid to Ukraine drags into its fourth month, the U.S. government under Pres. Joe Biden has found a clever new way to give Ukraine’s forces the weapons and ammunition they need to defend their country.

It is, in essence, an American version of Germany’s circular weapons trade—the so-called Ringtausch. The United States is gifting older surplus weapons to Greece with the understanding that Greece donates to Ukraine some of its own surplus weapons.

Greek media broke the news last week. According to the newspaper Kathimerini and other media, the Biden administration offered the Greek government three 87-foot Protector-class patrol boats, two Lockheed Martin C-130H airlifters, 10 Allison T56 turboprop engines for Lockheed P-3 patrol planes plus 60 M-2 Bradley fighting vehicles and a consignment of transport trucks.

All this hardware is U.S. military surplus—and is available to Greece, free of charge, under a U.S. legal authority called “excess defense articles.” Federal law allows an American president to declare military systems surplus to need, assign them a value—potentially zero dollars—and give them away on the condition that the recipient transport them.

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    9 months ago

    Again what is your point?

    Are you saying it’s better to let the Ukraine flail? That sounds like a moronic thing to imply.

    Both the Ukraine and Greece are our allies so why wouldn’t we help them?

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      I think we owe Ukraine as we removed their nuclear deterrent. That is very much on the USA.

      But that doesn’t mean that IRAN-CONTRA should be valid US foreign policy. Lend Lease worked until it didn’t.

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        9 months ago

        That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard. We aren’t helping Ukraine because we own them one. We are helping Ukraine because it’s in best interest of the entire world.

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          We aren’t helping Ukraine because we own them one.

          Oh, yes we are.

          Someone’s forgotten how upon independence in 1991, Ukraine gave up its nukes in exchange for guarantees of protection from the US, UK, Russia and France. We are literally upholding our end of a 30+ year old agreement we made with Ukraine, and the GOP is doing everything in its power to break our word.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

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              You’re as dense as they come when you don’t even know the history and treaties that govern the reality of your own arguments.

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                  9 months ago

                  You suddenly hate fact when it bitchslaps you, Coreidan. You’re all about black and white with no room for nuance until you get called on your shit and then you cry like a little girl, lol.

                  I had a look at your post history. It says all anyone needs to know. You’re not here to have discourse, you’re here to try to make yourself feel better about your life by finding reasons to call other people idiots and morons.

                  I just proved you were an idiot with fact and source links, and now you’re whimpering back like a smacked bottom. Get a life.