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  • Zoolander@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    It already is a toxic witch-hunt here. Try posting that you like an Apple product or that you don’t like Linux or Android and you’ll immediately get called a shill. Try it! It’s fun!

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      10 months ago

      I work for a telecommunications company and we obviously sell mobile phones as well as our own brand of routers and repeaters. Here in Germany, there is no obligation to use anything your provider gives you, so ppl are legitimately free to use whatever modem/router they want. Our’s is plenty enough for everyone who just wants a thing that sits in the corner and is never interacted with. Hell, It even has VPN via Wireguard and dynamic DNS and a little display. Are there more sophisticated routers out there? Hell yes. Yet, whenever my noob friends or family ask me for advice and I go “just by the one we’re offering and be done with it”, they call me a shill.

      So… Why do you ask if you don’t want to hear the response and why the hell would I sell you something I know doesn’t fit your needs when you’d come to me with your complaints?!

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          10 months ago

          That people call me a shill for recommending the stuff from the company I work for which I only recommend because
          A) I know it so I can help them with their problems and
          b) I got it cheaper, so I tried it and I know that it’s alright

          But people will first ask me “because I work at a Telco” and then not believe me because “of course you’d say that, you work at a Telco”.

          I was adding a personal anecdote to the argument you made that people calling out “shills” often depends on if they share your opinion or not.

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            10 months ago

            Got it. I think we’re specifically talking about Lemmy, though, and online communities where people don’t even know your identity. Your anecdote just makes me think your family is crazy. They know you and still call you a shill? That’s nuts.

    • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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      10 months ago

      If you get downvoted on lemmy you don’t get a 10min timeout and karma reduction like on reddit. So you may as well say what you want and wear the downvotes proud.

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        10 months ago

        Oh I do. Downvotes don’t matter at all on Lemmy. It’s just annoying because some people think they do and they think if they get upvotes that it means they’re right.

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          10 months ago

          If they don’t matter currently for moderation I have to imagine they’ll be part of a moderation toolkit eventually. Leveraging community voting to detect spam would be decently effective, especially for fresh accounts.

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            10 months ago

            Yeah, but reddit automatically bans you for a few minutes in a specific community once you get enough downvotes. The more you get, the longer it takes to reply to people. So any opinion that’s truly unpopular (i.e. not “I like cats better than dogs”) will get you to post less, with toxic people throwing their 3 cents in, calling you names, and you can’t respond at all since you are limited to a comment every 20 mins.

            I dobt lemmy would implement autobanning like that.

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      10 months ago

      I’ve never understood why people gush over Linux as a windows replacement. Why yes having to manually search for drivers for every product known to man and not being able to run even a fraction of what is on steam sounds like a fantastic time!

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        10 months ago

        You can run most games on Linux, you just have to enable proton, the steam deck uses a custom version of Linux by default, so at minimum anything marked as playable will work on Linux.
        Also I never had to deal with drivers at all when setting up linux, but I’m not sure if that’s normal, I’ve only used Linux mint, which was pretty easy to set up.

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      10 months ago

      I’m an Apple user who owns a Tesla and thinks both have decently good products.

      Do I win Lemmy Tech Product Controversy Bingo?

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        10 months ago

        Nope. I already ticked those boxes. My prize was a punch in the face from a random Lemmy zealot. Better luck next time.

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      10 months ago

      Apple legitimately makes super solid hardware. Their Apple watch heart rate accuracy is second only to chest straps and has a ton of very useful features. It is pretty much the best as far as integration, a “health watch” and haptics.

      Their phones and laptops have some beautiful hardware design too.

      Their business side just sucks donkey cock is all. But google is just as bad as Apple so potato potahto. Nobody should fanboy when every choice is shit lol

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        10 months ago

        Well that’s the point. Linux, Firefox, custom Android ROMs - they’re not corporate owned proprietary software, they’re FOSS. And they’re what you should use.

      • R0cket_M00se@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        Depends, if you mean for the average user then it’s good, but still overpriced as hell, and you have to deal with the Apple philosophy of “we did the thinking for you, if you dislike our choices it’s not matter of preference, you’re just wrong” no matter what.

        Enterprise use cases you might as well pitch your Apple products in the trash, they won’t work and you’ll spend more time figuring out which USB-C Thunderbolt to 10G SR optical fiber converter actually works than you will getting productivity done.