Starting a career has increasingly felt like a right of passage for Gen Z and Millennial workers struggling to adapt to the working week and stand out to their new bosses.

But it looks like those bosses aren’t doing much in return to help their young staffers adjust to corporate life, and it could be having major effects on their company’s output.

Research by the London School of Economics and Protiviti found that friction in the workplace was causing a worrying productivity chasm between bosses and their employees, and it was by far the worst for Gen Z and Millennial workers.

The survey of nearly 1,500 U.K. and U.S. office workers found that a quarter of employees self-reported low productivity in the workplace. More than a third of Gen Z employees reported low productivity, while 30% of Millennials described themselves as unproductive.

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    and shut down anyone that thinks things can and should be better, and that sucks.

    I know I sound like a broken record at this point, but you should consider if the person you’re listening to is legit, or astroturfing, before weighing their words.

    Corporations have a benefit to their bottom lines to shape narratives a certain way.

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      You mean like a corporation got some coworkers hired and doing actual work at the place I’m working at just to tell me I need to deal with my shit job? That seems a bit on the paranoid side.

      I have a good job now.

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        Have no idea how what you just said can be response to this…

        and shut down anyone that thinks things can and should be better, and that sucks.

        Corporations have a benefit to their bottom lines to shape narratives a certain way.

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          Yeah, I gathered what you were talking about. But you’re responding to me talking about me talking to coworkers. I get that I didn’t specifically say that, but I also don’t say anything about comments on forums.

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            but I also don’t say anything about comments on forums.

            But, you did say this…

            and shut down anyone that thinks things can and should be better, and that sucks

            I read that sentence and thought that you were not happy about the fact that people want to shut down conversations about things that could be better.

            My thought process was to try and cheer you up (“and that sucks”), by letting you know that you should realize it may not be just regular everyday people who don’t want things to improve, but actual astroturfers who don’t want things to improve, for their own personal benefit reasons.

            And by saying that to you, you would realize that more people potentially think the way you do, want positive change conversations, and cheer you up a little bit.

            So, my response to you…

            I know I sound like a broken record at this point, but you should consider if the person you’re listening to is legit, or astroturfing, before weighing their words.

            Corporations have a benefit to their bottom lines to shape narratives a certain way.

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              Yeah, get that. I get where you went wrong as described in my last post.

              I am not happy with a lot of people in my generation wanting to shut the conversation down. Astroturfing doesn’t apply since the people that were doing it, were in person, face to face, coworkers. Not astroturfers.

              What does make me feel better is that millennials and later seem to be more on board with me on this.

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                Yeah, get that. I get where you went wrong as described in my last post.

                Astroturfing doesn’t apply since the people that were doing it, were in person, face to face, coworkers. Not astroturfers.

                Are your co-workers the only people on the planet that have ever tried to shut down that kind of conversation?

                Cannot conversations be expanded upon?

                No need to be so literal, especially when I was responding generally, and trying to make you feel better.

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                  Are your co-workers the only people on the planet that have ever tried to shut down that kind of conversation?

                  No. This is a conversation, the person you replied to said something and that something meant a specific thing. Since I’m the person who said it, I know what that guy meant. I was talking about conversations I had in real life.

                  Even if I didn’t mention that specifically or clearly enough, talking about a random thing never before brought up in the discussion is your leap.

                  Cannot conversations be expanded upon?

                  They sure can. But since it’s a conversation between at least two people, those two (or more) people should be on board with the expansion. Just forcing it into a conversation and ignoring what the others are telling you, is not a good way to have a conversation for a myriad of reasons.

                  No need to be so literal, especially when I was responding generally, and trying to make you feel better.

                  Talking about something that doesn’t make me feel bad in the first place (astroturfing in this case), and “fixing” it, has absolutely no chance of making me feel better. It’s like putting a bandaid on my knee when it was my finger that was cut.

                  I’m aware of astroturfing, and can usually spot it in the wild. But online comments from other people hold much less weight for me than in person or at least personal conversations. So by default, astroturfing doesn’t really affect me.

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                    They sure can. But since it’s a conversation between at least two people, those two (or more) people should be on board with the expansion.

                    One person has to start the expansion though, it just doesn’t manifest on its own.

                    Just forcing it into a conversation and ignoring what the others are telling you, is not a good way to have a conversation for a myriad of reasons.

                    One person’s forcing is just another person’s expanding, and shouldn’t be responded to rudely.


                    So the content I got from your replies is basically a person is only allowed to respond exactly to what was said, cannot leverage from that and expand on it like any other normal conversation between people, cannot be helpful if the other person is not in need of it, and if they do so they’re just plain ‘wrong’ for doing so.

                    You must be really fun at parties.