My parents have spent the decades of their retirements volunteering and helping their neighbors.
Not working, however, is quite fulfilling.
I have a job where it takes up about 25% of my day to accomplish my work, and the other 75% of the time is spent doing whatever I like and watching my son.
It’s pretty goddamn fulfilling.
I’ve been ten years disabled to the point that I don’t have a job. My life has been more fulfilling in that decade than it ever was in my able bodied, over worked previous life.
I take care of my household, I volunteer where I’m able to, I seek out new topics to learn just out of curiosity, and I have a heap of different hobbies I bounce between. Sure, I get bored sometimes, but it’s a much cleaner boredom than the kind I got at work.
No way I’m the only one who can very much enjoy an unemployed life. That article is a bunch of bullshit.
Why I should never retire: because I’ll starve on the street. Unfortunately I’m getting old enough that no one is going to want to employ me. So I guess I’ll starve on the street and serve as an incentive to others to work harder for the man.
You’re ahead of your time. The trend of most of our futures right here.
I’m convinced half these kinds of articles are rage bait.
It doesn’t help that you don’t see the contents.
Economist is for sure a mouthpiece of the political class, but the Bartleby column is satirical.
I don’t see the link to the article
I don’t even understand the cookie window.
It’s ok, just select “Accept all” - their 172 (!) partners are “trusted”
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Even the person in their little splash graphic looks like they’re hiding their pain
To be fair, all of those activities sound like shit.
If I’m retiring I’m playing games, reading, hiking etc.
“Pleasure cruises, golf, and tracing the family tree.”
What the authors’ retired parents did while waiting for grandkids.
A wild guess, but I’ll make it.
One of the reasons I decided to leave the US.
Where’d you go? Can my family come too?
Sorry. It isn’t a country that anyone can just move to. It has many serious flaws and is not pleasant for people from different backgrounds. But it did allow my father to retire in his 50s and my uncles to retire in their 60s. But if you are willing to play along, and keep your thoughts to yourself, you do get a lot for free from education to healthcare and it is affordable to live in, and foreigners do manage to save here. Oh no income tax either.
If you are curious https://youtu.be/r3bgQMVsCH0
Ah yes the polluting country of assholes where they have no respect for women? Love this country /s
It isn’t perfect. Far from it, but every woman is entitled to free healthcare including most foreigners except very high earners.
And we are not that bad compared to some US states if you can trust American Progress https://www.americanprogress.org/article/authoritarian-regimes-have-more-progressive-abortion-policies-than-some-u-s-states/
Weird that you accuse us of being polluters when our impact historically, currently and cumulatively is nowhere near the US or most countries. https://ourworldindata.org/contributed-most-global-co2
I did qualify my post that it isn’t for everyone. I am of the culture, I understand it, and I know how to function in it.
That’s not ‘gaslighting’?
Just don’t confuse wanting to work for having to work.
My grandmother, who had been retired for 30 years, turned her music-writing hobby into a second career after my grandfather passed by taking on artists, getting involved with concerts, etc.
I’ve met plenty of very old dudes in my hobbies of archery and shooting guns who are absolute masters and charge too little too profit or nothing at all for tuning, gunsmithing, and coaching.
These have nothing to do with keep a roof over your head, and everything to do with staying sane when the expectation seems to be waiting around until you die
Doing nothing for years is a good way to die younger. If you can turn a hobby into a 20hr a week “job” where you pick your hours, that can very easily keep you alive.
Wait, it’s a column called Bartleby about working more than you want to?
They aren’t even hiding it anymore.
What’s the significance of the name?
Story by Melville about a guy who doesn’t want to work.
I think its good to keep working, but only doing the things that you actually enjoy or have value outside of a paycheck. When I “retired” I found it kind of hollow and it was not all it was supposed to be.
My father lasted a year in retirement, after which he got so bored he went back to his last job as a “consultant” to his successor, effectively continuing what he had been doing in the previous ten or so years, except only visiting the office when he felt like it.
I don’t recall him ever enjoying this job at all, but it seems sitting around with a sole purpose of waiting to die is even less fun
I am going to the office once in a while when I feel like it. Am I retired?
I have so many things I’d like to do, except I’m so tired after work and the things I need to do to maintain my life that aren’t called work for some strange reason. Provided I have the money to retire and afford the things I want to do, I will have plenty to keep myself busy for another lifetime.
If you can’t find ways to keep busy in your retirement, that’s on you. If you would rather spend that time working, that’s fine, too, but society shouldn’t expect that of us. If you can’t afford to, that’s a separate problem, and partly due to society, too.
I think that’s called having a hobby
I’d personally love to see retired people getting into DnD for the first time. I imagine if everyone is retired it’d be easier to schedule out.
I have my hip replacement this week and next week the grandkids are in town. Week after that I have a bad fall scheduled. After that I should be free, might be dead idk.
So I don’t get it.
One side of corporate mouth: Old people are too expensive and they don’t obey. We need to fire them so we can hire cheap, malleable, young people.
Other side of corporate mouth: Old people must work until they physically collapse and die at their station. There is therefore no room to hire additional workforce from the younger generation.
The goal is to have an seeming excess of workers to drive salaries down and hire young people who don’t know better and have fit boddies
This is the correct answer