Christians don’t look up to Jesus anymore.
“God’s hired hands and the devil bands, packed in the same grandstands” - Joni Mitchell, “Tax Free”
Don’t stick us all in the same basket, many do not believe in using religion to attack but as a guide to our live not to force our beliefs on others. If not interpreted in a way to show fear or anger at others, it really is a beautiful thing.
Why not? Jesus loved dystopian capitalism.
These people would definitely crucify Jesus if he came back
A brown person that advocated for caring for those around you, and fought against greed? Looks like the sinister Jewish cabal are sending the illegal immigrants to take over our country with communism - git em!
they’d call him a commie and hate him with passion for sure
Passion Against the Christ?
Sequel or bold new interpretation?
They hate him already. There are maggats who seriously believe that Jesus was too “woke” and so disregard the new testament completely.
…but they can’t do that. If they ignore the New testament, that would basically make them Jewish, with extra steps. But they hate Jews?
If they ignore the New testament, that would basically make them Jewish
I think that was the joke.
All you gotta do is say, “Good night, Jesus. I love you.” BAM, free ticket to heaven.
It would be funny if heaven existed and they’re going on about the border crisis with the mortal realm. “I played the harp for going on 8,000 years. THEY TERKERJERB!!! I don’t see why we don’t make ‘em all wait in hell and apply for asylum! Heaven is for the heavenly. They don’t even speak angel!”
:p
Ain’t no love like Christian hate.
I thought it was ain’t no hate like Christian love
Either way.
I wish this ever worked on Christians with political values on the right side of the spectrum. The fact is they refuse to see the contradictions and don’t care.
We’ve tried to use this logic on family and friends in a loving capacity and it essentially never works. They are the Bootstraps for Thee but Not for Me party. Subsidies are only for the rich who deserve it.
“Jesus helps those who help themselves. Pretty sure that includes elementary school kids in poverty.” - conservatives
Which isn’t a biblical saying in any translation or text.
It’s a saying, just not direct quote.
It’s not a biblical passage. It’s not a poorly translated passage. It’s not anywhere in the Bible. It’s a made up platitude by the idiots that brought you the prosperity gospel.
Ok, still doesn’t change the fact that it is a saying. I didn’t disagree. I said it was a saying.
You are right it is not in the Bible. Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_helps_those_who_help_themselves
It works on my parents. They’re Catholic though, but Latino so they’ve voted Republican many, many times. But they don’t vote for Trump, and they don’t vote for DeSantis. They really the walk, and they think the modern Republican party is completely betshit.
For some of them, I think it’s because they feel a thing first, and then reach for justifications second. If you say something that contradicts their feelings, it won’t feel true to them and they won’t believe you. It doesn’t matter how true it is. They’re driven by emotion. It is extremely ironic that the right wing is the one that says stuff like “facts don’t care about your feelings”.
If you want to change minds, you probably need to make them make emotional connections to the thing you’re trying to get them to believe.
Belief is also social, so if you want their beliefs to stick you need to get them away from the group that’s believing nonsense/hate/whatever, or they’ll go right back.
It is extremely ironic that the right wing is the one that says stuff like “facts don’t care about your feelings”.
With them it’s always projection.
“Was talk of virtue just pretention? Was I to naive, to expect you to heed the morals you’re purveying?”
Hey HH in the wild on lemmy let’s goo
So many christians today are eager to live like old testament Israelites and wish only to put the sword men, women, and children in glorious sacrifice to their bloodthirsty vision of god.
Except all that pesky other stuff like “the worker deserves their wages”, and “treat the alien(/immigrant) and poor among you as one of your own”.
No, I think they equally abuse both Testaments. Woman, submit to thy husband.
Husband, submit to thy wife.“treat the alien(/immigrant) and poor among you as one of your own”
Yay, someone actually knows their Leviticus 19!
A sentiment that’s one of the few things in the Old Testament that’s not anachronistic given the emerging picture of archeology.
Joshua killing the Canaanites? Poppycock nonsense.
Early Israelites were cohabitating with Philistines and Canaanites for much of the early Iron Age, and the animosity towards those neighbors in the text is a pile of revisionist BS.
For a newly emerging pastoral community to survive, getting along with their neighbors and not being a dick to others was adaptive as shit.
I never understood where that objection to Bible history came from. I mean, there are plenty of “good” objections to the Bible as inerrant history that could be discussed - e.g. there’s several stories told twice but they differ, except the Bible says that it’s not supposed to differ - but that one (that Israelites derived originally from Canaanites rather than being immigrants to it) seems SO obvious to counter?
The Bible story goes like: Abraham went there (to Canaan), then many years later his descendents went to Egypt (the story of Joseph, like that of Moses, is QUITE well-known), then their descents went back to Canaan, after getting bored with all that pyramid-building.
The objection: bruh, why you say you never been there before?
Response: wtf - I never said that I hadn’t?!
A temporary leave-of-absence (for a few hundred years) and then return is NOT the same thing as “never been there before”.
I’ve seen that Satan video - it looks really quite well-made in many ways, but the content… bruh, the content… it’s not so much good. I liken it to a ChatGPT response these days (except it long predated that), where it has the form of an authoritative response (like his snappy witticisms - THOSE I very much enjoyed:-P), without bothering to put in the work to make the content thus as well.
Anyway, I hope you don’t feel that I am attacking you personally, it’s just that I am a fan of argumentation, on whatever side, and I really don’t understand why that one was even supposed to work.
If they were actually religious, I’m sure this tweet would mildly irritate them.
You’re not allowed to give people any sort of bribes when voting for good reason. Its a form of rigging elections.
Yes, if you provide a subsidy for starving children that’s a political bribe. Goddamn your thought processes are all fucked up.
Im talking about the water at voting stations
Literally all you have to do is ban people from showing party affiliation when handing that out, problem solved. Banning the act of giving people water because of what line they’re in is evil
Lmao least surprising comment history ever.
Giving a wealthy suburb ample facilities so people can just walk in and vote in 15 minutes, but understaffing and skimping in an urban area so people have to wait in line in the sun for 5 hours is voter suppression, which is a form of rigging elections.
“Vote for me. I’ll give you water while you wait in the baking sun”
This is how people get elected 👌
LOL
“I know we got rid of polling places and redistricted everything for the eighth year creating longer lines than ever in order to disincentivize civil participation by regular people, but those folks over there handing out bottles of water to people waiting in the sun to exercise their rights is rigging elections!”
That is definitely one of the takes of all time
To be honest, this is something that really bugs me; people using the Bible for their own benefit. They say, “we love Jesus!” and then go and keep doing exactly what they were doing before. Jesus said, “If you love me, keep ny commandments” (John 14:158), and James said, “As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.” (James 2:26, but there’s more in James 2:14-26). Yes, they might say that there’s too many commandments-- but Jesus also said “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”. That is a summary of every single law/commandment in the entire Bible, all of the others are just more specific instructions on how to do that. All that stuff about turning the other cheek and going the extra mile-- it’s not saying to just put up with abuse, mistreatment, and injustice. It’s talking about what people like Martin Luther King and Gandhi did, using oppressors violence and mistreatment against them. The third commandment, “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.” (Exodus 20:7) is just talking about saying “ooh mah gawd” when you stub your toe, it’s talking about using God’s inapropriately in any way, including for personal gain.
Username checks out. Great post.
All that stuff about turning the other cheek and going the extra mile-- it’s not saying to just put up with abuse, mistreatment, and injustice. It’s talking about what people like Martin Luther King and Gandhi did, using oppressors violence and mistreatment against them.
Doesn’t it? I think when Jesus said “But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.” Matthew 5:39 he meant put up with abuse, mistreatment, and injustice - do not resist an evil person and do not retaliate when attacked.
I think when Jesus said “love your enemies […] Be perfect” Matthew 5:44, 48 he meant love your enemies and be perfect.
I think when Jesus said “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor” Matthew 19:21 he meant sell your possessions and give to the poor.
A lot of supply-side Jesus followers say Jesus supports the troops, and that the eye of the needle the camel needs to go through isn’t actually the eye of a needle - but a gate.
I think the above quotes are good things to do, eventho I’m not an ethical enough person to do them. I also think all the supernatural things Jesus is quoted as saying is bullshit, and that it’s better to be honest than to repeat a bunch of stupid fairy tales.
A lot of supply-side Jesus followers say Jesus supports the troops, and that the eye of the needle the camel needs to go through isn’t actually the eye of a needle - but a gate.
There’s no evidence to support this. It’s an elaborate bit of apologia that rich Christians use to try to dodge the fact they shouldn’t be rich. The copium is so strong that people will dig up pictures of specific gates (from centuries later) to try to back it up.
I always heard it in the context of trivia, like the eye of the needle was a really small gate used to allow pedestrian access to the city while allowing a wall to still keep out armies. A camel still wouldn’t fit by design, so I guess I’ve never heard it in the context of apologetics of rich people, or maybe I assumed the people I was talking to were being good-faith.
the troops, and that the eye of the needle the camel needs to go through isn’t actually the eye of a needle - but a gate.
It meant both. It was a clever pun. At least according to some understanding. Doesn’t matter the sentence only makes sense if the gate is small.
The biggest lie the Religious Right repeats is by rejecting that Jesus would be a progressive.
Jesus (at least as depicted by the Bible) advocated nothing about hurting people who were different, and preached tolerance throughout his life.
No. That is you picking and choosing verses. Which I can do as well.
He was quite clear that his way was the only way to heaven and what’s more just saying you followed him wasn’t enough. You can’t be tolerant of other views when you are telling people that the holders of other views are going to burn in hell and even those who agree with you might still not measure up.
He was quite clear that you couldn’t follow him and have a good relationship with people who didn’t. That outsiders would hate you and you would hate them. That the very family unit was a snare to keep you away from him. Again this is a hurtful non-tolerant view.
Then he told his followers of the time of his wrath was coming where he would torture those who opposed him and his followers would go around murdering many tossing the bodies at his feet.
He was quite clear that his way was the only way to heaven
He said "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (John 14:6)
and what’s more just saying you followed him wasn’t enough
This is what the parable of the sheep and the goats(what the original post was based on) is about.
You can’t be tolerant of other views when you are telling people that the holders of other views are going to burn in hell
Hell isn’t a place where people are eternally tortured by Satan-- it’s an event, it hasn’t happened yet, and it’ll be originally prepared for Satan and the demons. The idea of humans having immortal souls comes from greek philosophy and is not Biblical. Any humans that go to hell (the lake of fire) will die (I’m not quite sure about the Demons, I’ll have to do more research). Heaven isn’t just about living forever, it’s also about being with God forever, and if you want to be with Him forever, why wouldn’t you eant to be with Him now? I think the lake of fire (I’m calling it that because the word “hell” has a lot of unhelpful connotations to it) might just be the absence of God. Keep in mind that this is from Revelation which uses a lot of metaphors and prophetic imagery.
He was quite clear that you couldn’t follow him and have a good relationship with people who didn’t.
That’s not what He said: He said that He needs to be at the centre of our lives. That certainly doesn’t mean that we can’t have good relationships with others, both believers and non-believers. "We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God." (2 Corinthians 5:20).
That outsiders would hate you and you would hate them.
He didn’t say that non-believers and believers should hate each other, He said that His teaching would be controversal and decisive-- “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.” (Matthew 10:34 ). Of course He will bring peace when He returns and His teachings encourage peace (although it isn’t presented as being the most important thing), but throughout history His teachings have been very controversal.
That the very family unit was a snare to keep you away from him
I’m not quite sure which verses you’re talking about here, but I can think of two: Matthew 10:35-36 and Luke 14:26. The first one is the continuation of when He says that He came to bring a sword and He is still talking about how His teachings would ve controversial and decisive. In the second one He doesn’t mean to literally hate, He means it comparitively. He’s talking again about how He should be at the centre of our lives and our most important thing.
Then he told his followers of the time of his wrath was coming where he would torture those who opposed him
I talked about this in my response to the bit about tolerance
his followers would go around murdering many tossing the bodies at his feet.
I don’t remember reading about this. Could you tell me where it’s found?
Most of what you’re saying don’t contradict progressivism.
The things that do, I would say from the other reply to you are pretty controversial interpretations or contexts, or downright so mis-explained by you that people aren’t able to guess what verses you mean.
I’m not a Christian, but I’m not going to bury my head from seeing how progressive their namesake was.
Most of what you’re saying don’t contradict progressivism.
How do you unify the absolute obedience to God with a secular society? How do you unify strict adherence to all the commandments with a secular government? How do you unify god ordained leadership with democracy?
The things that do, I would say from the other reply to you are pretty controversial interpretations or contexts
Very well. Show me what verse I am wrong about and the correct understanding. Then explain how you determined that and how you determines that Christian leaders and thinkers have been so wrong for so long about the meaning of these passages?
I’m not a Christian, but I’m not going to bury my head from seeing how progressive their namesake was.
Which is why he spoke out in support of the LGBT, religious tolerance, and against slavery? Oh wait, he didn’t.
How do you unify the absolute obedience to God with a secular society
Render unto Caesar? Jesus’ preaching seems clearly to favor things like welfare and social sharing over blasphemy laws. He directly broke the religious mandates of his people in favor of helping those in need.
Very well. Show me what verse I am wrong about and the correct understanding
Part of my objection is that many of us couldn’t even figure out what verses you meant. Name a verse that clearly shows Jesus must support the political Right and then we can discuss it.
Which is why he spoke out in support of the LGBT, religious tolerance, and against slavery? Oh wait, he didn’t
It might surprise you, but Jesus didn’t live in 20th Century America. With that in mind:
LGBT - This is literally why I argue that Christians inject anti-gay rhetoric. He DIDN’T speak out about how to treat gay people in an empire where homosexuality was largely tolerated. Short of him turning to the camera and starting to comment on video games, one wouldn’t expect him to talk about gay rights, or abortion, or any 20th century comedy.
religious tolerance
While he tried to convert pagans, he was accepting of them in a smaller region where they were largely outcasts. Pagan influences are a large part of why Christianity doesn’t look like Judaism-plus-plus. The Jewish people were ruled by a pagan empire, and yet again we have no speech against it.
against slavery
In this one you might have a point. But I think you’re stretching if looking at it as an outsider. Through all the books of progressive teaching, focusing on the fact he fails to take the time to condemn slavery seems like you’re showing your hand if it’s your reason for rejecting his general progressivism.
Unlike Christians, I don’t think Jesus was perfect. I’m convinced if he were alive running for office, he’d be Far Left.
I think when Jesus said “But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.” Matthew 5:39 he meant put up with abuse, mistreatment, and injustice - do not resist an evil person and do not retaliate when attacked.
This one takes a bit of cultural context, I have a book at home that has a good section on this but I’m traveling now so I’ll type this part when I get home. But the gist of it is that don’t just ‘put up’ with it, but be kind to them. Fight violence and oppresion with kindness. draw attention to them. Force them to treat you (even if just to fight you) as an equal. Like it says in Proverbs 25:21-22, “If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty, give him water to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head, and the Lord will reward you.”
I think when Jesus said “love your enemies […] Be perfect” Matthew 5:44, 48 he meant love your enemies and be perfect.
yep, that’s what He meant: “Love your enemies, pray for those who curse you”. I think this ties in a bit with the cheek turning.
I think when Jesus said “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor” Matthew 19:21 he meant sell your possessions and give to the poor.
This is what He said just before the bit about the camel going through the needle eye. A man came to Jesus and asked what he needed to do to be saved. Jesus told him to keep the commandments, and the man said that He’d done that all his life. Then Jesus said “If you want to be perfect, go and sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”. The man then walked away sadly because he had a lot of stuff and Jesus said it would be easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God.
A lot of supply-side Jesus followers say Jesus supports the troops, and that the eye of the needle the camel needs to go through isn’t actually the eye of a needle - but a gate.
yeah He meant that it would be easier for a camel (like the animal, camelus, this one) to ge through the eye of a needle (like the hole in the end of the sewing tool, the bit in the top right corner of the main picture of this article). Also lol for Supply Side Jesus.
I think the above quotes are good things to do, eventho I’m not an ethical enough person to do them.
Same here, but with God’s help I come to Him, He pulls me closer, and I become more like Him. And when I fall (or jump) He comes and gets me and picks me up again.
I also think all the supernatural things Jesus is quoted as saying is bull****, and that it’s better to be honest than to repeat a bunch of stupid fairy tales.
I’ll have to disagree with you here, I firmly believe that Jesus is God come to earth as a human.
(sorry it took me ages to reply, I’ve been busy and I wanted to sit down and think about this reply)
Which English translation do you prefer and recommend? I like NET because of it’s less-rights reserved copyright, but for ease of understanding I prefer translations that use contemporary language instead of just footnotes.
be kind to them. Fight violence and oppresion with kindness. draw attention to them.
I think this characterization of turning the other cheek is more complete and supported by the nearby text, even for someone like me who prefers Jefferson’s eliding.
Re: “do not resist”, are there other nearby passages that expand it to more than just refraining from violence, into actually resisting evil persons? I ethically agree with your expanded position of trying to overcome injustice in this world - but doesn’t the quotes of Jesus in the canonical books rely instead on waiting for justice in heaven and hell, and not on Earth?
third commandment, “You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.”
I thought it was because people swear to God in court and witness testimony was all that civilization has in terms of evidence.
We found a workaround for that. Just swear on the Bible instead of in God’s name.
Ticket closed.
Or wave it around and have your official security services clear away any opposition to your path. (Trump)
I thought it was because people swear to God in court and witness testimony was all that civilization has in terms of evidence.
I believe it’s more of a respect thing
Why you writing so much about a book full of complete hokum though.
Because even an entirely made up “hokum” story can inspire people to behave themselves better. It’s not much different with more modern fantasy.
In other words lying.
Thank you, I love every word you wrote here! I’m an atheist when it comes to picking labels, but I think there’s potentially good things in these value systems (and bad, like with everything else that is man made). Focusing on labels is missing the point.
CHRISTIANITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN USED TO FOOL ABUSE AND TERRORIZE THE PEOPLE. NOW IS NO EXCEPTION.
Probably especially so since Jesus was a Jew preaching the Jewish faith and the guy who made most of the rules of the Bible was a rich dude who never met Jesus once.
The real Christians got persecuted and crucified two thousand years ago, for saying “be kind to one another”. The Christians we know today mostly converted when some dude in power said they were now Christian. They didn’t become different people.
No, they got persecuted two thousand years ago for challenging the power dynamics of a conservative theocracy dependent on revisionist religious orthodoxy.
Which is very ironic given the embracing of the tradition today by a group hell bent on establishing a conservative theocracy dependent on a revisionist version of that tradition which brought it more in line with said religious orthodoxy.
Evangelists use The Bible as a shield and scripture as a weapon. I like to think actual Christians aren’t these people.
It’s always been funny to me how religious people, who follow their religious doctrine to the gritty details, are called “extremists” when they’re the only ones actually following the doctrine.
You’re either an extremist or a fuckin hypocrite who chooses to cherry pick which parts of the doctrine you choose to follow.
Either way your beliefs mean nothing to me and I’m absolutely fucking sick of hearing about whatever bullshit sky daddy you pray to.
Amen.
Fundamentalists don’t necessarily follow the tenets of the religion more accurately or thoroughly. They often have their own interpretations others disagree with, and pick and choose what to follow as much as the rest.
So you’re either a hypocrite or a hypocrite.
Either way idgaf about which religion it’s coming from. Religion has done nothing but cause problems in the modern world.
It’s an ancient belief that just like geocentrism should be crushed with realism and scientific facts.
If your beliefs can’t handle being destroyed by facts then they were never true to begin with and you’re just lying to yourself.
(I’m using the royal you. I’m not attacking you personally)
Systems like Christianity are way too complex, ancient and far removed from modern society - the Ten Commandments were pretty concise, but then there’s so many other ‘do this, don’t do that’ rules and suggestions, in Leviticus for instance, plus then the New Testament which has some things that override the old one. Then it’s tied to this supernatural gibberish and tall tales and legends that barely make sense (Noah’s Ark, for example, or Jesus magically creating food and healing people), plus centuries of rationalizations of the contradictions (Trinity) and additions used to control people (eternal hellfire!). For a book supposedly dictated by a supreme being, the Bible sure could use a damned editor. Probably the whole thing should be scrapped, but newer religions aren’t much better, if at all.
To be fair, if you tried to follow all the rules and teachings of old religions today, you’d definitely be breaking a lot of them just by going about your daily life. If you literally followed all the stuff from the bible, you could end up being punished for even just casually saying the name of another god according to Exodus 23:13 KJV.
I can see why people don’t fully follow every teaching or rule if stuff like that is cannon, but at the same time can somewhat agree religion kinda seems ancient and outdated.
If you literally followed all the stuff from the bible, you could end up being punished for even just casually saying the name of another god according to Exodus 23:13 KJV.
Following a text literally is not the same as following the actual teachings of a religion.
Any “Bible” most of us can read is a revision of a translation of a translation with the additional problem of being coloured by the opinion of whoever had control over subsequent versions. You cannot take it literally. Like, at all.
If you as a translator, publisher, king or whoever had influence over a major revision of “the bible” started out with a phrase to the effect of “you shouldn’t follow other religions’ teachings” and had a particular pet peeve for people speaking of other gods, you could easily arrive at a wording forbidding the “mention of the name of other gods”. I’m not knowledgeable about this in the slightest and cannot make any solid assertions here (though if you look at i.e. the older Wycliff version it sounds a lot less specific) but rather want this to serve as an example for just how much room there is for error in such historical documents.
There is no authoritative and exact source on the beliefs of Christianism as many assume the bible to be.
Actual Christians will be being persecuted by these people. Whether in the US or overseas.
Of course because they’re not strong enough to fight for their beliefs or some other bullshit. I’ve had someone unironically say Jesus was too soft. They’ve lost the plot.
I say that, but, also, not a Christian.
Jesus should have smited the Romans so hard the Etruscans got resurrected, cmv.
Kinda defeats the entire point of Christianity being about mercy to the sinful if none is shown.
Oh noooo my religion has embraced militant anti-imperialism oh nooooo
Oh nooo my religion that preaches pacifism in the face of literal crucifixion has become militant and I’ve lost the fucking plot oh nooooo
I like to think actual Christians aren’t these people.
Also known as the No True Scotsman.
Well Evangelists are the people kicking in doors to convert you. Christians are just people who believe in Christian stuff.
A genuine difference.
Would you like to see PEW surveys on how they vote and what opinions they hold about minorities?
Evangelists? Pretty sure I know how they feel about minorities. Surely not far off from Democrats.
Are you? Are you pretty sure about it?
They were not persecuted to any real extent and the few that were was because they weren’t giving sacrifices to the gods. Not because of any moral reason.
You can even see it in the first time a political leader mentions them. He says that he lets them go if they just agree to make an offering. The Romans had zero problems with charity the Romans had zero problems with people being nice. They had a problem with not respecting the gods because they “knew” that if you didn’t bad stuff would happen.
There was no golden age to Christianity that they fell from.
True Christians today are socialists. But, they would also reject that label.
Well socialist dictatorship supports at least. Paul was clear that the leadership was ordained by God.
Razor wire in the water?
What kind of monster would do this?
I am not joking; I am genuinely asking.
Some issues have gotten confused. There were buoys that texas floated in the water. A few drownings went on around them and they were ordered removed. There’s some international law there. I’m not sure how much razor wire was in their construction, but it was definitely a safety hazard
The razor wire is another issue, and the ruling for it is really the bare minimum and appears to be misrepresented by the right. Texas had been putting it everywhere for years. This was not an issue for the federal government in most situations. However the federal border patrol has to do their job (regardless of the fact the right pretends they don’t to smear political rivals). If they see something on the other side of the razor wire that requires their attention, they need to get to it. To do that they cut the wire to get to the otherside. Texas, not wanting to have to replace the wire everytime, sued to make them stop. The federal government basically argued blocking them was obstructing justice and other official business(including things like rendering medical aid). Courts have found on the federal side. Texas is trying to ignore it. If someone is on Texas’ side you can always accuse them of obstructing justice. They kind of are in cases where there is actually justice to be done. In other cases they are just sadistic.
A follower of Christ. Which he has stated multiple times.
Texas and Mexican border. Whole fiasco is happening there right now
Is the wire hidden under the water, like a trap, or 8s it very obvious an plain to see.
Neither are good, obviously, but one is infinitely more horrifying than the other
Looks like it’s along the edge of the water. You can’t get out or get help if something goes wrong with your crossing.
We don’t know because we can’t get access to it because the Governor is threatening secession, literally, not figuratively.
What we do know is that it had led to at least the death of a mother and child, very likely many more.
That whole thing is awful, but there are plenty of pictures. It’s not like it’s a media blackout, they’re just not letting federal agents come in and remove it.
They also prevented CBP from rescuing people from the river.
It’s barbaric.
It’s in the ground, in the Texas side. But it is referencing a couple people who drowned on the Mexican side a couple weeks ago. Mexican authorities found the bodies, a couple hours later they notified the US about it. The CBP then blamed it on The Texas razor wire, as if they could have saved them if it weren’t for the wire. After the facts came out, they were long dead, so it fizzled out of the news.
Never let a good crisis go to waste. Politics.
They had these floating bouy things wrapped in razor wire that I believe went all the way to the bottom of the water. You could definitely see them. You would certainly get gravely injured if you tried to traverse them.
The feds ordered those removed. I’m not sure if they did remove them or not.
The SCOTUS ordered it removed, because it was floating into the Mexican side of the river (effectively making this an illegal trespass onto foreign soil). The Texas state response was to deploy more buoys and dare someone to stop them.
When you’re so far Alt-right that the Heritage Foundation wet-dream SCOTUS isn’t even on your side…
It wasn’t their fault. No one remembered to buy Thomas or Alito a new boat
I’m not a sky-daddy believer but the poetry of that tweet actually hits hard.
Still: Jesus was a confection. ‘Why invent the Jesus?’ https://youtu.be/LTllC7TbM8M?feature=shared
The real religion of the US is capitalism
Marx actually wrote on the concept of Capital as a “real god,” ie something actively worshipped, not just a quick metaphor. It’s super interesting and very funky.
Do you know where I might find more about that? Like, what should I search for? Never mind, I found it.
Americans worship money.
Many people in various cultures worship ( or at least value above many other things) money or the status goods it brings.
This becomes obnoxious quickly.
