“Kenny just began to gasp for air repeatedly and the execution took about 25 minutes total.”

Pretty compassionate way to kill a person.

Once again, the Law in the south is brutal.

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    The only people I’m ok with killing are the ones we have undeniable poof for. Like the Uvalde school shooter. They have footage of him in the school with the gun and know he killed the kids. In my book he’s OK to execute. if there’s even a shred of doubt in anyone’s case then execution should be off the books period.

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      I don’t support the execution of the Uvalde shooter.

      What does killing him accomplish?

      Justice? Not really.

      Restitution? Not at all.

      Vengeance? Not really.

      Deterrence? Not really.

      Closure for the families of the victims? I suppose.

      I don’t know about this case, but some families of victims oppose the death penalty, even in the case of the murder of their children.

      Some reasons for this view could be religious beliefs, or the view that death is the easy way out, or the deterrence value of being able to point at a person in jail, or the potential for the person to do some good in the world.

      These people would object to closure for them being used as justification for killing their child’s murderer.

      It’s not fair to victim families to make them choose life or death for a murderer. It would be a decision they’d have to live with forever. We can’t do that to them.

      My opinion is that capital punishment should only be used where a person guilty of a ‘capital crime’ can’t be reliably imprisoned.

      Ie I’m not sure Iraqis were wrong to execute Saddam Hussein. I don’t think it would be wrong for countries that struggle with corruption in their penal system to execute cartel leaders (that have been convicted of ‘capital crimes’). War crimes, insurrection leaders, that sort of thing.

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      The only people I’m ok with killing are the ones we have undeniable poof for.

      The problem with that logic is that every criminal conviction is supposed to have “undeniable proof!”

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        No it’s not. In the context of the justice system in question, reasonable doubt is a MUCH lower bar than undeniable proof.

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            A reasonable doubt is less strict than undeniable proof. If I go outside and see that the lawn and road is wet then I can beyond a reasonable doubt ascertain that it has rained, but that’s not undeniable proof. If I go outside and get rained on and measure that rainfall in a scientific way then that is undeniable proof. Blackstone’s ratio is irrelevant; too many people are wrongfully imprisoned and executed on dubious evidence. We seem to fucking agree about that, so calm down.

            I downvote comments that are obtuse or don’t actually contribute to the conversation and I don’t see anything wrong with that.