Okay let me start with two heavy hitters right from the get go and don’t forget these are only personal oppinions and I absolute understand if the rest of the world like those games. Good for you!
Zelda: Breath of the Wild - Not a bad game per se, but I don’t get the hype behind it. Sure the dungeons are fun but the world is so lifeless, the story non existent, the combat pretty shallow, the tower climbing is very much like FarCry but for some reasons it’s okay here while Ubisoft gets the blame…like I said I dont get why the game is so beloved. Never finished it after the 20 hour mark and probably never will.
Red Dead Redemption 2 - Just like Zelda not a bad game, but imho highy overrated. Graphics and and atmosphere are amazing but the controls are clunky and overloaded, nearly everybody is an unlikable douchebag who I would love to shoot myself at the first opportunity (maybe except Jack and Abigail), the game is just so long and feels very stretched, you already know that you won’t get Dutch because it’s a prequel and for an open world game you often get handholded in your weapon selection or things you can do because you have to wait for them to be unlocked by the game.
So there they are, two highly controversial oppinions by me and now I’m really curios what your takes are and how highly I get downvoted into oblivion 😂
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Undertale and For Honor
Undertale is a decent enough game, I guess, but whenever I think about it, I think about all the crazies that call themselves fans of it. It’s exhausting just thinking about it.
For Honor got me interested, but it made a few very bad choices. Magnet hands and slow attacks meant that you could react to attacks, and never had to worry about whiffing. It’s so dull to have basically no concept of interesting movement play in a game about fighting.
Sonic games, I’m referring specifically to the first one and that era.
My friend and I rented a Genesis I believe it was, specifically to play this, we thought the graphics were awesome, the speed was amazing, the t3ch show off was cool, the game had novelty.
But really from a gameplay perspective, I simply do not understand what people like about it.
The whole thing was just run as fast as you can down this path, you have no idea what’s coming up. There will be multiple opportunities to take different paths but you don’t really have time to make a judgment call, so you flail at the controller and end up hitting a hazard. You start the level over and over and over again and you repeat it until you understand which way to go and then you complete the level.
Now you’ve run into every single gotcha and you figured out some optimal routes, now you can play it all without dying a lot.
Why would anybody want this?
Top down, RTS, and point and click games. That includes XCOM, Baldur’s Gate, Pillars of Eternity, etc. They just seem to be lacking immersion, I’d much rather play a 3rd person action game or an FPS
BioShock Infinite. Mostly because I hated all of the characters, with the exception of the Luteces, and even they were on thin ice, mostly because of Rosalind. And Elizabeth as a NPC companion? I would prefer Ashley from Resident Evil 4 over Elizabeth any day. It didn’t help that every time I tried to listen to a voxophone, she’d start talking about some bs, so I’d have to start the voxophone over, only to have her start talking again. When it happened 4 times with one vox, I had to take a break from the game. I just wanted to listen to the damn recording.
Gameplay is great though. I’ll play the heck out of the Clash in the Clouds dlc. I get the fun action, and none of Booker and Elizabeth’s constant whining.I started the game immersed in the story, but kind of gave up on it after awhile, I think it was when “Akshually the slaves are evil for rebelling against the people who kidnapped them, took them to a floating island, abused the fuck out of them, didn’t even consider them human, and claimed it was doing them a favor because of White Man’s Burden bullshit”
As cool as the idea of fighting through a dying utopia with factions on both sides trying to kill you who are “equal and opposite” evils, it kind of doesn’t work when one side is blatantly more in the right than the other yet the game wants me to believe it’s “Evil Vs. Evil”
“The only difference between Daisy Fitzroy and Zachary Comstock is how you spell their name!” - Booker DeWiit proving he is the dumbest man alive!
The DLC story was slightly better, but it doesn’t make sense for Elizabeth to go around killing all the Bookers because “Even though I love Booker like a father, some of the Bookers are evil!”, when a multiverse traveler should probably realize that in an infinite amount of universes you’re probably going to find one where Hitler is known as the Rabbi who cured cancer and paints in his spare time… more than one most likely…
Great game tbh, but the story is such bullshit… I agree with you though, this is not a game you replay the main campaign, you boot it up and do Clash in the Clouds to get the same experience without Booker and Elizabeth being methheads… which is a shame because the characters had a lot of potiential in my opinion… Honestly the whole game did…
You can just tell that there was meant to be more going on with this story, but something clearly happened in development
The gameplay can be fun, but the story just isn’t there. It’s connection to Bioshock 1 and 2 feels forced.
As soon as they do the first “dimension switch”, or whatever, I lost any feeling of commitment since everything done up to that point became worthless to the plot.
I love Metroidvanias, 2D platformers, and generally even games that came before them that were similar in style but don’t meet all the Metroidvanias criteria. But I really really kind of dislike pretty much all of the Mario games. There’s a delay in the control scheme that makes timing difficult for me, and I can’t seem to get over that. I actually gave away Mario Odyssey because I couldn’t really play it well at all after about 10 hours. For me it’s not intuitive despite my like for both 2d and 3d Metroidvanias style games.
Almost Anything Open World tbh
Every open world game has turned into the same “do this x times to get y reward that has no relevance whatsoever to the game”
I miss the days of games on rails. I could sit down, enjoy a game and play it through to the end in 10-20 hours. Now it seems like every game is trying to milk 100+ hours of gameplay time out of even the most basic of stories and mechanics.
I fully agree with you. I feel like 99% of open world games sacrificed the story and gameplay in the process.
Open world is really only good if it’s something like an MMO where the content is built up over the course of years and there are multiple story lines.
Aside from that, it works well for racing games not much else.
Yep you said it perfectly.
I also miss story driven games such as Uncharted games, playing several open world games in a row can be exhausting, I kinda feel it for game reviewers and such.
I found the three newish Tomb Raider games to be a great mix of a sort of open world feel at times where you have things to explore, while being very much on rails. Each arc in the story gives you an area to explore and your actions in that area progress the story. You get some weapon and ability upgrades throughout. I came in not expecting much and couldn’t put the first one down. I think I finished Tomb Raider 2013 to 100% in about 20-25 hours and it was excellent. Will probably do another playthrough at some point, still haven’t played the third.
I tend to agree but then I also have moments where I get lost in the world for a few hours and it’s great. Death Stranding is probably my favourite where I walk everywhere and I spend an hour doing one delivery!
That’s Cyberpunk 2077 (with a bunch of mods) for me. Sometimes you just end up really immersed and have a great time.
I would also choose Zelda: BOTW and RDR2.
Zelda: BOTW is a soulless Ubisoft game clone shamelessly inhabiting the dead shell of the Legend of Zelda franchise. It contains little to nothing that makes the Legend of Zelda games what they are. Gone are fascinating cities and towns, no colorful cast of characters, no real dungeons or temples, no progression system so the entire game is just 50 hours of the game exact same copy-pasted things over and over and over with no change in difficulty or approach. It’s like the first Zelda game in history without a memorable score, in fact there’s hardly any music in it at all. Theres no plot to speak of. It introduced some novel systems, and they deserve credit for that, but it’s just not a Legend of Zelda game at all.
RDR2 is a bland on-rails march from shooting gallery to shooting gallery, with an incredibly lifelike and immersive world that… doesn’t really give you anything to do. And what it does give you, there’s no reason to do. The game revolves around your camp and allies but the camp hardly serves any purpose. You can’t customize it in any significant way, keeping everyone happy and supplied does very little besides reduce the amount of audible complaining. And the game shoves so much money in your hands from the word go, that you never have a reason to do any money making activities, and it upends the plot of the whole game “We just need a bit more money” Dutch says as I have $10,000 stashed in my saddlebags. Everyone seems to love Arthur as a character but he’s just such a bland, indecisive milquetoast guy who doesn’t hold his own opinion on anything. He doesn’t have any personality to speak of until the last third of the game, and then they expect you to have an emotional reaction to him by the end. John was hands down a better protagonist and it’s not close.
but it’s just not a Legend of Zelda game at all.
And that’s why I love it, just like Majora’s
Absolutely nothing like Majora’s lol. Majora’s Mask took everything expected about a Zelda game and put a put a twist on it. It switched up the formula while staying true to its legacy. It was a fresh new experience but everything you could want as a Zelda fan was there.
BOTW just abandoned everything good about the franchise and replaced it with insultingly generic Ubisoft inspired busywork. Whatever Zelda DNA that was left is just window dressing.
I WISH we could one day get a spiritual successor to MM, but I guess we have to wait for Nintendo to kick its Ubisoft / Fortnite phase.
Last of Us, Uncharted, Assassin’s Creed, RDR.
I did finish one of the Uncharted series but they mostly go into interactive movies genre which I don’t find that interesting. The same with LoU but lost interest and never finished. AC (maybe II) was just annoying, the blending, erratic climbing/jumping mechanics… RDR, I should give them a chance, but the wild west setup inherently doesn’t do much for me. The same can be said about the “samurai style” games like Nioh, Sekiro etc. And I say that as a huge Souls games fan.
I have tried on multiple occasions to get into 4x games and my brain is just too simple.
The 4x elements have to be secondary and not the primary focus. Age of wonders planetfall and Warhammer 2? Great. Imperator Rome and europa universalis? Might as well look at a fucking spreadsheet lol.
Wish I could get into the micro and efficiency of numbers but it doesn’t do anything for me. Even with an interest in Rome.
Don’t Starve I already can’t stand Tim Burton’s style, and I really can’t get over the similarities to try to enjoy this game, even though one of my autistic special interests is open world survival crafting games.
Fallout 4 Seems like a perfectly fine FPS, very much not a Fallout game. Leans far too heavily on action and not enough on the RPG elements.
GTA 5 If GTA were a candy, GTA 5 would be a bucket of that candy. It’s fine if you really really really like that candy, but if you’re just not THAT obsessed with the candy, it can get a bit tiring. Having three people with different stories and event going on felt like I never spent enough time with one character to REALLY get into their development. I’d rather see them innovate than just do MORE GTA
Outer Worlds Boring af
I’m with you on FO4. The voiced protagonist is bad for my roleplay and the storyline with my So and baby are all loaded unto me, and I couldn’t give a damn about both of them. The shooting was better than in FO3, I give them that. Now my hopes are high for fallout London to combine the shooting and give me a story where I can immerse myself more
I thought FO3 was a great way to revive the series in a way that would keep interest in it for newer generations. With how Starfield seems to be going, how FO76 went, how Skyrim was compared to past versions of Elder Scrolls, I’m not sure I’ll trust anything that Bethesda spits out until long after release.
Good thing fallout London is a huge mod and not a Bethesda game ;)
I haven’t been following things. Now I’m going to have to look into it!!!
Outer Worlds should not be confused with Outer Wilds. Outer Wilds is one of the best games ever because it’s the best execution of it’s genre.
Doom Eternal. I don’t usually enjoy FPS games and I’m not very good at them but I absolutely loved Doom (2016) as it took out most of the things I hate about FPS games. But in Eternal I just felt like I was constantly out of ammo, and there was too much focus on using specific weapons against specific weak points on enemies which I couldn’t get the hang of
I’m replaying Doom Eternal right now and I feel this so hard. Even with ammo upgrades and judicious chainsaw use I’m constantly out of ammo. Really makes me wish for a melee weapon that doesn’t have limited fuel or whatever.
Yeah I also couldn’t get the hang on Doom Eternal. Loved the first one but the second one cramped so many unnecessary elements into it and made it too complicated. The first one was a simple but highly effective shooter, but the second one was just bloated with stuff nobody asked for.
The only thing I really hated about Eternal was the Marauder. As a mini boss it was fine, but as a recurring enemy it absolutely kills the pace. I tried the DLC and as soon as I encountered another Marauder early on I turned it off and haven’t gone back.
It’s a shame because I really enjoy the lore, and contrary to yourself I liked most of the other changes Eternal made to nu-Doom. Fewer rooms where you get locked in until you defeat all enemies, mainly.
I agree with the Marauder bit. As a boss it was fine, but as a recurring enemy it just killed the pace of the game.
As for ammo, the game gives you so much chainsaw fuel that if ever you run out of ammo, you just chainsaw the next enemy and you’re back to shooting with your preferred weapon.
The problem I had was that their way of making the game harder was just to throw more enemies at you. Some of the battles were just way too long, fighting dozens of the same enemies that spawned in as you killed the previous ones. It just got so tedious at some point, and rather than being excited for what was coming next, I was just hoping the fight would end so I could move on.
Doom hit the right balance, but Eternal just overdid it.
From memory it respawns the low level enemies constantly, since they’re just ammo/health/armour pinatas. You needed to kill the big enemies to complete an arena.
Not really a fan of the design choice, but I had a decent amount of fun when I clicked with how the Devs wanted you to play.
A complete downgrade from Doom 2016 in every way. Combat was complete madness, there’s no such thing as planning ahead. You can only endlessly dash away while insta-swapping weapons ad infinitum.
Doom 2016 made you think. Is this glory kill to risky? Is the gap wide enough to make it through, who do I have to kill first? Doom Eternal reduced that to a single repetitive four button loop.
I quite enjoy Doom Eternal, but it’s true it’s a very different game from Doom (2016). You either vibe with the combat flow the game enforces or you don’t. There is exactly one way to play it, by rotating between all the abilities as they go off their cooldowns, so you can keep restoring your ammo, HP and armor respectively.
I agree, when I first picked it up I couldn’t get into the rhythm of the game and hated it, but once it clicked it was a lot of fun. You can’t really go in expecting to play exactly like Doom (2016).
Yeah, Doom 2016 is easily one of my favorite singleplayer fps games. Doom Eternal is just worse in every way, and I couldn’t get through more than a few hours.
It completely breaks the combat flow state that made the original great
Instead of having the freedom to prioritize enemies and weapons, it wants you to do things a very specific way
Instead of the minimal but interesting story from the 2016, we get a convoluted mess, with random characters that we have no reason to care about.
Also, despite 2016 looking quite good, they decided to make Eternal garish and cartoony for some reason??
I could go on, but anyway I hope we get a proper 2016 sequel some day.
GTA5 and RDR2 are boring as shit.
All souls like games are just too much work, as are most metroidvanias. I just don’t have the energy or the time to spend on them.
Yeah, I played the hell out of gta 3, San Andreas and vice city… But 5 felt very boring. I can’t really nail why but it got to a point where I tried to force myself to play before giving up.
Similar story with RDR, I played the original and the zombie dlc, loved both, the sequel just didn’t do much for me
- GTA 3 ->
- Fallout 3 ->
- Skyrim
- Souls series and most games like it
- Halo
Cuphead.The art is very beautiful, but I think the gameplay uses just plain repetition to achieve the difficulty, and I’m not a fan of doing the same thing again, again and again.
Outer Wilds: too boring for me.
RDR2, Horizon series, probably many more others I don’t even remember: a lot of busywork in an empty uninteresting giant open world.
Souls-like: I understand why people like them but it’s not the kind of challenge I like.
Star Wars anything, Shadow of Mordor, Hogwarts Legacy: couldn’t care less about the setting.
I think these are about it for “generally liked” kind of games. There’s some more about less popular stuff but in general this is it.
Star Wars anything
How would you know unless you’ve played them? I highly doubt you’ve played every Star Wars game.
Well if you are fundamentally uninterested in the setting, it may not be worth it to give the star wars games a try.
I was fundamentally uninterested in the setting of the Thor: Ragnarok, but I still enjoyed it.
I was also fundamentally uninterested in Barbie, but still found the Barbie movie fun.
Why would I play them if I’m not interested in the whole Star Wars world? I’ve watched a couple of movies, didn’t like them too much and didn’t watch the rest, so the games are automatically also not interesting.
the games are automatically also not interesting.
You don’t know that.
For example, that’s like saying you don’t think you’ll like the Dark Knight, because you don’t like comic books and without ever having watched it. I’m not saying the Dark Knight is a particularly good movie, but it being part of a certain extended universe, having a particular setting, isn’t necessarily relevant to whether you’ll like it.
In a lot of genre stuff(westerns, scifi, fantasy, etc.), you’ll have stories which aren’t actually about a fictional future, but about the present or past. Often they’ll rework them into science fiction stories, just like how a similar story would have been reworked into a western when those were popular.
For example, Red Dead Redemption could have been turned into a Star Wars game quite easily.
Hell, in the past acclaimed directors like Tarkovski made science fiction movies, so they could fly under the radar with subversive stories, exactly because critics underestimated the story they were telling because it was ‘just science fiction’.
TLDR: don’t judge a book by its cover.
This being said, I get why you wouldn’t bother trying if you disliked much of the Star Wars you have seen.
I hated Shadow of Mordor when I got it. It was Linux native so I had to try it. Played past the return time so it sat in my library for a while. Got bored and tried it again. Didn’t really care for the story but the gameplay was awesome. I have SoW to try, but no real motivation currently
Well tbh I’ve heard a lot about the gameplay in Shadow of Mordor being great, so I played it when it was temporarily free on Steam. The gameplay didn’t feel like anything special so combined with the world I disliked, I didn’t last long in it.
May I ask why you dislike the world? Is it LotR in general, or just what they did to the lore in those games?
Because I do enjoy those games, and I’m a fan of Tolkien as well, so I can definitely understand why someone wouldn’t care for the Shadow games due to what the devs/writers did with Shelob and Sauron
Honestly, for some reason, I just strongly dislike everything set in the medieval fantasy setting. I tried watching Game of Thrones and dropped it because of that, I didn’t watch too much of Harry Porter or LotR, never played Skyrim for the same reason. I know I’m missing out on a giant chunk of cool media that’s great and interesting but I just can’t bear this time period + magic. Unfortunately.
I might try something that’s incredibly good and super popular but I probably won’t like it in the end, even if I’m coming in with no prejudices against the world.
So you dislike fiction/fantasy in general?
As a big Outer Wilds fan, is there any other game in the genre you like better?
I believe Outer Wilds is one of the best games ever made, because it’s the best execution of it’s genre (exploration / mystery games). I accept the genre might not be for everyone, but I’m not aware any better games in the genre.
