• Copernican@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Isn’t that just going to cause accidents? For all the non regulated cars on the highway, what happens if you need to merge into a lane where the flow of traffic is faster than the speed limit? It doesn’t even have to be a highway, but lane changes in any city can have that problem I imagine.

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      I can only imagine going to pass and failing to do so in as timeless manner as needs to occur…

      That would make passing so much more dangerous as people are in the other lane even longer.

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    Lots of people arguing about the practicality of this, or whether it can be done without invading privacy or slippery-sloping into mass surveillance.

    The thing is: Even if it could be done perfectly — giving instant leeway when emergencies occur, being perfectly private forever, with perfectly accurate sensors — I still don’t think we’d want it.

    That’s because laws are not just mechanical things. They are social things. When we put up a speed limit sign, it’s not just to configure a number in the driver’s mind. It’s to remind them to think about how they’re interacting with the community around them.

    De-emphasizing that responsibility runs counter to this social purpose, which I think we intuitively understand at some level even if we reflexively bring out other claims in order to object to the policy.

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    Lol get a grip. This comment is immature as shit.

    I’m sure you have never in your life exceeded 10 over to make some sort of maneuver in traffic.

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    10 months ago

    How about let people actually own the fucking car they purchase

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    Come on guys it is old technology, it will be soon the case in EU :

    From july 2024 all new cars will have an intelligent GPS which prevents driver that the speed limit is exceeded (the gas pedal will be stronger). of course you can disable it, but you have to do it every time you start.

    Can’t wait to see drivers panic because they can speed up in 30km/h areas (like around schools)

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      People (generally young men overrepresented on platforms like this) get really defensive about not being able to speed. They’re the exact problem these laws are aimed at addressing, so of course they get all upset at methods to force their compliance with the laws they’re regularly breaking. I’ve been there. I sped excessively too, then I got a really massive ticket and realized maybe that 2 minutes I was saving in my commute wasn’t actually that important.

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    10 months ago

    People speeding in your neighborhood is a rich people problem. Guess who’s putting themselves first in their own legislation?

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      Because sometimes to avoid an accident I have to speed up slightly. If I’m locked in at the speed limit, I’m fucked. If it’s 10 mph over, and I’m traveling below it, I’m not.

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    I saw a video yesterday of cars fleeing the 2011 tsunami in Japan, I’m willing to bet those people exceeded 10mph over the posted speed limit trying to get away from the water.
    Limiting the speed of the vehicles isn’t going to improve driving skills or eliminate distractions. It isn’t going to make people drive safer, just slower. I’m sure any situation where people need to go 10+ miles over the speed limit is going to be exceedingly rare and limited to things like fleeing forest fires or tsunamis, but limiting the speed isn’t going to have a huge impact on accidents.
    It could decrease fuel consumption and emissions though 🤷‍♂️.
    But it still seems like a problem that could be solved with better enforcement.

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      10 months ago

      There are reasons other than natural disasters that happen all the time. Health emergencies are a fine example of this. Yes, ideally you’d wait for an ambulance but oft times that’s just not viable.

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    I am not a “muh freedom” guy, I don’t drive more than 10 over anyway. But this is just logistically a bad way to stop speeding.

    Where does my car get the current speed limit information? How and when does it update as speed limits change? Will school systems around the country have to submit a list of which days are “school days” for school zone speed limits?

    What if the GPS registers you on the 30mph road below or next to the 70mph highway, long term or even for a momentary glitch? Who is at fault if that causes you to be in an accident?

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    Good.

    Why would you need a car that can go 200mph? Where are you going to use it? Oh yeah typically in school zones or some shit. If the limit is 50mph, ITS FOR A FUCKING REASON.

    Also, US cites and states, START DESIGNING YOUR ROADS FOR THE SPEED YOU NEED. If you design a road next to a school like a highway, don’t be surprised when people drive 70mph. This simple idea is used all over the place in the Netherlands and guess what? IT FUCKING WORKS BECAUSE IT MAKES FUCKING SENSE .

    /rant

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    10 months ago

    This tech should be developed and used to stop chase vehicles. Also if it is used to stop people from going 10 over then we shouldn’t have cops checking people’s speed anymore.

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    Just fucking electronically limit the max speed to the maximum allowed in the country. That would solve most of the issues and work 100% of the time. Also, I don’t care that in your fantasy scenario you have to race to a hospital at 100mph because someone cut of his head with chainsaw and there’s no ambulance service.

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      10 months ago

      nah it doesn’t solve the issue of crazy speeding in school areas and city center.

      You can go as fast as you want on a airstrip, I won’t mind, but respect the life of other people (“you” is general ofc)

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    Hmm. I’m always crusading for people to slow down and stop being in such a frantic hurry all the damn time. In Utah, people go 85 in school zones (in fact 125 in some cases) and kids are being killed every day because of it.

    Is 10 mph over the speed limit too much speed? I don’t know, but I know that too many people drive as IF they were having a life-threatening medical emergency rather than following safe speed limits. If the weather is good and the road is clear, it’s fine to go a few miles an hour over the speed limit.

    But, speed limits aren’t there just to make your life inconvenient. There’s a reason they deem some zones safer for going faster than others, usually because of residential areas having lots of kids around, etc. Speed limits aren’t just arbitrary.

    In some places where drivers are not usually exceeding the speed limit I can see where this could be a nuisance. But in Utah, where almost nobody drives at a sane speed, and people go WAY over what could be called acceptable levels of speed, nothing else has worked to slow drivers down. So, this seems like it could be a real step in the right direction.

    If people WON’T do the right thing, should we FORCE them to, especially if it saves lives? That’s the question.

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      10 months ago

      If people WON’T do the right thing, should we FORCE them to, especially if it saves lives? That’s the question.

      Isn’t that just what a law is

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        It’s usually “if people won’t do the right thing, should we punish them for it?” Rather than forcing them to obey.

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          I don’t think it’s punishment to make people follow sensible speed limits, at least it SHOULDN’T feel like a punishment. Like I said, those limits aren’t there just to make life inconvenient. Frankly I don’t see why people behave like driving is a race to a finish line.

          I’d rather think that we should educate people better in the first place, instead of waiting and then punishing them. But in Utah, people do not listen and do not have the responsibility to drive with care and caution. What do you do when people just refuse to do what’s right?

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            I think you’ve misunderstood my point. The punishment is things like traffic tickets, fines, license suspensions, and so on. Laws don’t magically force you to drive at the speed limit, they institute punishments that are applied to you when you exceed it.

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              The reason “punishments” like traffic tickets exist at all is exactly what you said - laws by themselves don’t seem to work to get people to drive at the speed limit (or close to it even). How else can you regulate and enforce them? If not by issuing tickets or fining people who SHOULD know better (and yet continue to act like imbeciles behind the wheel).

              The speed limit laws are there for a reason. People ignore them because people are assholes. So - how do you enforce the law when people WILLFULLY refuse to see the reason to follow them?

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                  It’s obvious you don’t live here in Utah. Nobody who has lived or traveled here would ever say people obey anything close to the speed limit here. Just last night, another batch of stories on the local news about drivers going too fast, that killed several school kids and one that wiped out a whole family who were stopped on the side of the road.

                  Utah is all about idiots willfully killing people. That really should be our state motto.

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        Yep I think so. And I’m pretty law-abiding, which makes me an enemy in the eyes of other people for some reason. Personally I think it’s imperative to act responsibly as a driver and obey the speed limits and take weather and road conditions into account.

        I know that all seems kind of “no duh” but you wouldn’t believe how many people in Utah speed through lights and intersections and construction and school zones as if their asses were on fire. Really, nothing so far has helped stop the excessive speeding.