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      7 months ago

      I’m not american, but isn’t calling yourself not progressive kinda… Shit? Why would you ever say that you don’t like progress?

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        He didn’t say that. He said he is willing to have a discussion about immigration policy with republicans.

        Whoever wrote the article is trying to speak on behalf of an entire political group called “Progressives” by claiming everyone in the group came to a unanimous decision to not discuss immigration (this isn’t true).

        So the writer of the article is claiming Fetterman isn’t a part of the group of Progressives because Fetterman is willing to do his job by being diplomatic.

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          He said he is willing to have a discussion about immigration policy with republicans.

          “Let’s hear the literal fascists who compare even legal immigrants to vermin and invading armies out. I’m sure they’ll be willing to reach a reasonable compromise” 🙄

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    Having a conversation about immigration isn’t a bad thing. Going in to that conversation looking to shove your view points down the others side throat IS a bad thing.

    The reality is that we need immigrants to fill a ton of holes in our workforce but we also need to fix the system to allow legal immigration to be an easier process and to try to stem the tide of illegal immigration.

    I don’t have the answers, but I know the problems exist and there are much smarter people who could help get ideas moving if the ideologues would get out of the way.

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      Yeah, most people against illegal immigration have no idea how arduous and expensive the process actually is. It’s not as simple as going to the border and saying, “One greencard please.”

      I’m against illegal immigration, but the solution I’d like to see is a more streamlined process so people wouldn’t need to pay coyotes to smuggle them across with no guarantee they’d even survive the trip.

      If they want to come be productive members of society, why stop them?

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        Because America, by large, has been built upon immigrants coming over and shutting the door behind them so others can’t get their success.

        We’ve done it as English colonists, we’ve done it during the Industrial Revolution, we’ve done it in the early 1900s, and we’re doing it now. It’s sadly a trend that we, as a country, never grew out of.

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    It’s unsurprising, especially since even legitimate leftists often balk at immigration due to the rampant myths around it. Still an obvious and better choice than Oz, or any Republican, and important blueprint for outreach to actual moderates.

    God only knows how he can support Israel on moral grounds while being in a position where he has access and time to study the issue, though. Pre-existing biases, one supposes.

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      The Philly suburbs have a pretty influential Jewish population. Nothing like NYC, of course, but they’re politically active and probably donate a lot of money.

      But Fetterman has also tried very hard to listen to everyone in the state. He did a tour of all of the counties - even blood red places like Clearfield and Perry - to get people’s impressions on marijuana legalization. It’s one thing I respect him for.

      Sadly, I disagree with most of my fellow state citizens on this issue so I have to go along with the majority and watch children die.

      Yay democracy.

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            I suspect the question was framed through the lens of the maryjane comment. That was my initial reading until I completed the statement.

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    7 months ago

    Being a shill for the Israeli apartheid regime is the LEAST “maverick” thing you can possibly do in American politics.

    To break with the left to join everyone else in enabling genocide isn’t a brave and principled stand. It’s ignorance at best, but more likely morally bankrupt cowardice.

    Go home NBC, you’re drunk on neoliberal gaslighting. Again.